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Is painfully shaming the Cowboys franchise with his inability to get it through his head that Tony Romo is not a SB champion quality QB. And now he is nearly impossible to trade (not that many teams would want him anyway) with that absurd amount of money now in his contract. Even with this mediocre crop of QBs in this draft, i'd rather have one of them than that poser romo.
And now a TE? is that really what the cowboys needed? Ugh, its frustrating bring a former cowboys fan.
This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by GaryMcGary 12 months ago
"When two beards cross paths, the larger beard has the right of way."
Maury won't like this.
"A good burn is like good sex. It's simple, to the point, and leaves your victim totally destroyed."--Kenny Drebsen
edit it 3 times now and you will get it sooner or later. Drafts certainly are interesting with Jerry Jones. Witten is 31 now and getting up there, it may not be an immediate need but I didn't really like anyone behind Witten. Not sold on Hanna yet, we will see. The tight end pick did shock me a little bit but I never heard of the guy. He sounds like a solid player.
He's no mastermind of drafting like Al Davis, but please help me understand that romo extension.
What else was he suppose to do? No free agents weak qb class.
Let the punter try out?
You just wait until Rodgers retires you won't be so spoiled then.
In general, I don't think Jerry Jones is even an average GM. I do think Dallas overpaid for Romo, and I don't think he's an elite QB in the NFL, but I don't think that means he's necessarily not a Super Bowl champion quality QB. I think that stuff gets overblown by the media too frequently. There are a lot of average/slightly above average quarterbacks that have won titles. Flacco is good, but I think he's vastly overrated. Same for Big Ben. Dilfer won one, Brad Johnson won one, etc. Brady and Peyton Manning have both lost several playoff games to teams with quarterbacks that weren't nearly as good as they were. I think that's one of the biggest misconceptions in the NFL right now that you can't win it all without an elite QB. Again, I don't think Romo is an elite QB, but I do think the Cowboys can win it all with him if they know what they're doing as an organization.
This post was edited by Todd Worly 12 months ago
Still laughing at the idea of Al Davis being a draft mastermind.
I know I'm a Dallas fan and have had Romo's back for a long time but I really think most of you guys are selling Romo short. Yes he isn't a Peyton Manning or Rodgers, if that's your definition of elite then he isn't elite and most qbs aren't elite. And yeah he hasn't shown it when it matters most, although he is more clutch then most people think, he just tends to have terrible moments that get shown under a microscope forever. Without Romo Dallas is lost, terrible, forget about it, no chance. Especially with that offensive line lately. But they tried to improve that in the draft this year and got Romo a couple more toys, so we will see what the future holds. Personally I feel good about Dallas's future.
As I alluded to in my previous post, I think there's a common misconception that you need an elite QB to win a title in the NFL. And to prove that point, a lot of people immediately grant elite status to QB's just because they win a Super Bowl. It is and always has been a team game, and that gets proven time and time again. I don't think Dallas's roster has been good enough to be a serious contender for a title in a very long time. That's on Jones. Would Dallas have been better in certain years with an elite QB instead of Romo? Of course, but that still doesn't mean they would've won the title.
I was excited for last year and then the defense just had a ton of injuries. It's sad it's like that with the Bulls, they had talent but never really played together. I think they are better now then what they have been, they just need to stay healthy, probably like most NFL teams. Still I'm excited for next year. They still have holes but every team will.
Defense wins championships, but turnover prone qbs don't. You'll never see cutler raise the lombardi trophy. Nor will you see romo.
Romo's defense was improved last year but just had way too many injuries. They had like 3 starters on defense they signed off the street. Now they are switching to 4-3 so who knows. They have talent and I'm sure they will be fine if they stay healthy.
I don't think either one of them has played for a team that was good enough to win a title. Chicago had a legit shot in 2011 had Cutler stayed healthy. Again, I don't think either one of those guys is elite, but I think they're both capable of being the starter on a Super Bowl champ.
Jones sucks Romo sucks, I am done with this discussion
Gold medals aren't really made of gold. They're made of sweat, determination, and a hard-to-find alloy called guts.
Romo is turnover prone because the defense has been so terrible the past couple years and blowing leads that he has to try to be a miracle maker. I'm a Cowboys fan and I think Romo can win them a championship. Dallas has so many needs on defense that I am baffled that with our 2nd and third round pick Jones took a TE and a WR. What a freaking idiot. These two better turn out to be Jason Witten 2.0 and Michael Irvin 2.0 or it was a terrible move. Dallas needed more O-line help, an ILB, a DT, TWO SAFETIES,...yet Jones takes a TE and WR. What a moron. Man do I hate him being the GM.
I was kind of surprised they didn't pick up a safety too but remember this is probably Garrett's last year. So he got him some toys on offense. And they did pick up a safety in free agency, I guess they were thinking that was enough. I could have sworn you liked Jerry before?
Apparently JJ Wilcox is a safety in the NFL even though he played DB in college. I just read this artcile on ESPN and it shined a little light on the Cowboys thought process.
It's the making-of-the-sausage aspect of the NFL draft that's the problem. If the Dallas Cowboys had begun this offseason with picks 31, 47, 74 and 8
"Recall the common complaints about the Cowboys' offense. (The non-Romo ones, if you will.) It's unimaginative. It stalls in the red zone. It doesn't have a reliable No. 3 wide receiver, and its No. 2, Miles Austin, is always hurt. The picks of Escobar and Williams address all of that. Escobar is a considerably better player than James Hanna, last season's sixth-round pick, and the ability to put him on the field along with Witten will offer the Cowboys options they didn't have on offense last season."
If you add a big Romo complaint that he throws to Witten too much it does make sense the way they drafted. I don't know I would like to see them actually play some before killing Jerry too much. If they can contribute right away and Dez keeps making strides and plays he did at the end of the season Dallas's offense could be pretty damn good. If Murray can actually stay healthy for a season anyways. I kind of hope they go rb in the 4th round.
I agree with a lot of this. If Rex Grossman can get to the Super Bowl, Tony Romo can. He's mediocre as an NFL quarterback IMO, but mediocre quarterbacks with a good team around them can absolutely win a Super Bowl.
You guys are really selling Romo short calling him mediocre IMO. He has a strong arm, is accurate, very mobile and makes plays even when he had a terrible offensive line. I hate to think where Dallas would be without him.
Probably with another over paid mediocre qb
Actually they may have ended up with Luck or RG3? Damn maybe that would have been better.
They could have drafted Gary McGary to play qb and had better a better season.
Out of 32 starting quarterbacks, I'd probably put him somewhere in the 12-15 range, so slightly above average. I'm not disagreeing with the strengths of his that you mention, but most starting quarterbacks in the NFL have similar strengths. So much of it has to do with what kind of teammates you have surrounding you.
As for where Dallas would be without him, it all depends. If he has a season-ending injury in the season opener, then I'm sure they'd be in huge trouble unless they can pull off a trade. But, for argument's sake, let's say Dallas decided to release him the day after the season ended. They would've had all offseason to sign, trade for or draft a quality starter. That guy may or may not have been has good as Romo, but there wouldn't have been nearly the same drop off as there would've been if Dallas had to replace him during the season.
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