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This gal sounds like an unbelievably lazy, self entitled c**t
In The Wall Street Journal, high-school senior Suzy Lee Weiss imagines how her fate might have differed if she had a tiger mom or started a fake charity.
Wow, just wow
Who knew a 3.25 GPA and 1600 SAT score wouldn't cut it for the Ivy League?
If she doesn't care enough to learn that you need tons of extracurriculars and/or connections to get into the Ivy's, the only real benefit of the Ivy League (connections) would be lost on her. Perhaps if she ever matures, she'll realize she saved herself over $100K.
The will is not here, the will is at my office next to the hot plate with the frayed wires.
What a whiny little . Get over yourself. I went to lowly little UNI, yet made it into a law school where I had classmates from Harvard, Penn, Duke, etc. Sorry your parents and others didn't hold your hand and guide you.
It was actually well-written, but........
Life is hard. It's really hard if you're stupid.
This piece would have been better had it been written after she made something of herself. Then I could see it as a toungue in cheek slap at the institutions by someone who made it despite any obstacles (perceived or otherwise). But this does just sound like sour grapes.
I think she's got a valid point, myself. A little whiny, yes, but still.
What? That getting into "good" (relative term, Iowa is pretty decent despite being a lowly public school, also it tends to be very program dependent) schools requires a little extra effort?
I'm trying to decide if she's really trying to argue against her perceived notions of admissions quotas based on factors like race, sexual orientation, etc. If she is, she does a really poor job of making her point.
A better conversation would be about improving some schools so they better prepare their students for ACTs and the like, but I think the purpose of education would better be focused on learning how to think critically and study, as that will help them far more in college (and life) than just preparing for an exam.
And there really isn't a valid reason not to do extracurriculars in high school You have time. Find a few that your passionate about and do that, there's no reason to do 15 of them just to put them on an application (although it certainly feels that way at times).
A friend of mine in High School is half black, came from an educated and privileged family. He, and a number of other friends of mine who were all white and from the same background applied to Northwestern. They all grew up together in the same neighborhood and had about the same kind of life experience and extracurriculars.
The main difference being, my half black friend had lower grades and test scores than all the others who applied. He wrote his application essay on how he grew up in the hood and how hard his life had been. He wrote how he had to live with seeing his best friend and cousin getting shot and killed by gang bangers when they were kids. All flat out lies.
Guess who was the only one of those guys to get accepted to NW? Unless I misread the article, that's exactly who she's talking about.
I guess I come from the perspective that a vast majority of people don't flat out lie on applications. I also try to only focus on things that could actually be changed. A college has absolutely no way of looking into the background of every essay they are sent.
And I give it up to your friend, if you're going to lie, make it a big lie and really sell it. Although I find it humorous that whoever read the essay actually found it plausible that DSM has a ghetto that bad.
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She ain't reading this thread, and you ain't banging her.
Stop kissing her ass my good man.
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So if it was all true he deserved to get in over the other guys?
It depends on the entire application, in my opinion. Did the other guys do vastly better on ACTs, GPAs, extra activities, etc? If so then they deserve admission over the guy with the tragic back story and not much else. If everything else was about even, I would give it to the guy who had to overcome obstacles. I don't think it's an unreasonable position. But again, I come from the perspective that people don't tell flat out lies on essays.
And I say this as someone who still feels I was a tad screwed over at Iowa and doesn't agree with many aspects of the med school admissions process; although I don't envy the people who have to make those decisions.
I don't know the specifics on their grades or test scores. All of them were good and they were all smart guys. I do know that his were lower than all of them and he is the first person to tell you he was the least qualified of all of them on paper. I don't blame him at all for lying to get in. That's the game, might as well take advantage of it. I think the girl's point, and mine, is that the game in question is ridiculous.
What I especially don't like is her attitude that doing charity work and the like is dumb and people only do it for an application item. Sure, that may be true. I did stuff just to put it on my app; But guess what? I also got a lot out of it that I didn't think I would have. There's a reason why that kind of stuff is encouraged.
And not every student does that, some just do it out of the goodness of their heart. I volunteer as a student adviser for a medical exploring post we do for local high schoolers. One of them was working with a 10 year old kid who started a charity to try to provide food for a local refugee family who's father/provider decided to leave one day. Another one volunteers for a camp for kids with cancer and has already raised enough money to buy 6 ipads for the kids room at the hospital, and is trying to raise donations for packs for the kids at the camp.
This gal should do some work outside of class and learn the value that it can bring. Learn to make yourself look good and what makes you a special candidate. Trust me, they do let white straight people into college as well.
She should also realize that the best schools are for the best high schoolers. Not everyone can fit that bill, sorry to burst her ego. I would have loved to go to Wash U for medical school, but considering I had a 33 MCAT (a really decent score, actually), I didn't even waste my time applying (average MCAT there is like 38 I think, top score possible is 45, average for everyone is like 24). But there is no shortage of good colleges, she should find one that fits her instead of railing against the schools that rejected her.
I especially agree with this. I think a lot of it is about being realistic about where you stand as a candidate. Don't expect to get into Harvard if you're a B student.
It's also hard to judge the merit of her point without specifics. Also, while well written and occasionally funny, the article comes across as whiny and immature.
I can't really comment to the merits of what you guys are discussing, but this should be a life lesson for this girl. Nobody successful ever got successful by whining about it, and lamenting that they were never given the opportunity. Everyone has obstacles to overcome in their lives. Everyone has had a door slammed in their face at some point in their life. Successful people either find another way in or they kick down the door. They don't pout about not getting an opportunity. It really doesn't matter your race, creed, sex, or sexual orientation. There are great people in history that had those things going against them, but they refused to quit. I hope this young lady takes this as a life lesson and learns that nothing worth while is ever easy, or everyone would do it. The greater the struggle, the bigger the reward. It's one of the laws of nature.
After 1st post and my reply tl;dr
What? Life ain't fair? East coast as*holes still rule the world? Say it ain't so JW.
I think it was well written and spot on. So much of the stuff on College apps is bull and she finds the whole song and dance a crock. For instance who cares if your Dr. learned how to play the piano or if they did an intern in Africa or donated their time at the Humane Society. The only damn thing I care about is can they fix my ailment their background in extra curricular activities during College or High School don't mean S@#$ to me.
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