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  • lumuhawk said...

    I will say it again....any time a school is tied with another school that the recruit has never visited, it doesn't bode well for the school that has already been visited.

    This kid is going to Nebraska unless he gets there and they tell him he will play DB.

    In all my years of following recruiting, I would say when this situation arises, the player ends up going to the school that is at the top without a visit (and finally gets a visit) about 90 percent of the time.

    Often the commitment happens on the visit itself as someone mentioned earlier.

    Same goes for Iowa. I can only think of a few exceptions where Iowa was in the lead or tied prior to a visit where the recruit didn't go to Iowa.

    Great point. That's probably generally the case. The only exceptions would be if they completely botched the visit somehow (told him he'd play a different position, one or more of the players/coaches rubbed him the wrong way, the coaches didn't spend enough time with him, etc) or if he just doesn't like the location/campus.

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  • Husker79 said...

    With Nebraska getting Gladney's last official visit, I'm quite confident to say it's a done deal that he'll commit to Nebraska. Iowa doesn't have the facilities nor the fan base that Nebraska has and Gladney will walk away from Lincoln a committed Husker. Sorry Iowa but we just took another recruit from you. Better luck with tight end Wisnieswki, who by the way, will be visiting Lincoln the weekend of the 16th.

    I'll attempt to stoop to your level for a few moments to reply to you in order:

    Will he commit to Nebraska? -- Very likely, no reason to come to another teams board and throw that in our face. But don't get too cocky yet, we had Antonio Allen do the opposite to us where he felt fine with all the coaches but didn't like "something" at Iowa and went somewhere else. Honestly, his loss considering where he went.

    Iowa doesn't have the facilities? -- While I haven't seen, nor do I really care to see your facilities, you're living in a dream world. Most major BCS Conference (SEC, B1G, PAC-12, BIG-12) schools have relatively comparable facilities nowadays with these 4 conferences making massive amounts of money from tv deals. Trust me, I've seen Iowa's facilities first hand, they are far from bad and only getting better with the new football facility being built.

    Iowa doesn't have the fans? -- All I can ask is if you can hook me up with your dealer, because while we don't have a Ohio State or Michigan massive fan base, there are Hawkeye's everywhere, much more than you think. The only thing Nebraska outnumbers us in is bandwagon fans like I assume you are. Feel free not to answer, because I don't care. Also feel free to stick to your Husker board unless you're actually planning on having a respectful conversation with us or have some non-ignorant questions for us.

    You're just as bad as daddyact, how about you leave recruiting talk to the Nebraska fans who are capable of being respectful.

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  • welcome Bramaekers and Zonie87, feel free to stop by more often.

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  • derHawkeye said...

    I'll attempt to stoop to your level for a few moments to reply to you in order:

    Will he commit to Nebraska? -- Very likely, no reason to come to another teams board and throw that in our face. But don't get too cocky yet, we had Antonio Allen do the opposite to us where he felt fine with all the coaches but didn't like "something" at Iowa and went somewhere else. Honestly, his loss considering where he went.

    Iowa doesn't have the facilities? -- While I haven't seen, nor do I really care to see your facilities, you're living in a dream world. Most major BCS Conference (SEC, B1G, PAC-12, BIG-12) schools have relatively comparable facilities nowadays with these 4 conferences making massive amounts of money from tv deals. Trust me, I've seen Iowa's facilities first hand, they are far from bad and only getting better with the new football facility being built.

    Iowa doesn't have the fans? -- All I can ask is if you can hook me up with your dealer, because while we don't have a Ohio State or Michigan massive fan base, there are Hawkeye's everywhere, much more than you think. The only thing Nebraska outnumbers us in is bandwagon fans like I assume you are. Feel free not to answer, because I don't care. Also feel free to stick to your Husker board unless you're actually planning on having a respectful conversation with us or have some non-ignorant questions for us.

    You're just as bad as daddyact, how about you leave recruiting talk to the Nebraska fans who are capable of being respectful.

    All fanbases have a few fans that say things that make the rest of us go huh???

    I married into an Iowa family from glenwood. They are hawkeye fans and I like to see you guys play well. The week we play you guys has got to be my favorite of the year!

    Thanks for all the conversation guys!

    WintersComing

  • derHawkeye said...

    welcome Bramaekers and Zonie87, feel free to stop by more often.

    I'll be back. I really like it here! Maybe I can talk to the in-laws about this site!

    WintersComing

  • bramaekers said...

    All fanbases have a few fans that say things that make the rest of us go huh???

    I married into an Iowa family from glenwood. They are hawkeye fans and I like to see you guys play well. The week we play you guys has got to be my favorite of the year!

    Thanks for all the conversation guys!

    Yeah I know, I know a few Hawkeye fans who are similar, but being in Eastern Iowa, they're mostly harmless. Feel free to stop by our OT board as well, Shocker (Nosfera2son), ScarletandCream, and the Commander of the Yak Army have stopped by a few times which has been fun. Btw, tell the Yak Commander (Oryhara) to get back over here, we thought he died. lol

    This post was edited by Todd Worly on 6/7/2012 at 11:58 PM

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  • lumuhawk said...

    I will say it again....any time a school is tied with another school that the recruit has never visited, it doesn't bode well for the school that has already been visited.

    This kid is going to Nebraska unless he gets there and they tell him he will play DB.

    In all my years of following recruiting, I would say when this situation arises, the player ends up going to the school that is at the top without a visit (and finally gets a visit) about 90 percent of the time.

    Often the commitment happens on the visit itself as someone mentioned earlier.

    Same goes for Iowa. I can only think of a few exceptions where Iowa was in the lead or tied prior to a visit where the recruit didn't go to Iowa.

    Actually I think he's most interested in Nebby because he wants to play both ways and with Martinez throwing the ball he'll get to play both WR and DB

    This post was edited by Hawkeyedean on 6/8/2012 at 9:25 AM

    Hawkeyedean

  • derHawkeye said...

    Antonio Allen.

    I agree with most of what you said, but he's definitely a pretty rare, and costly, example.

    derHawk,
    In a way, he's a good example of an exception. I actually thought of him when I was writing this. Although he says Iowa led, once he visited, that was no longer the case. Then, suddenly, other schools were 'tied' or rising.

    He ended up commiting to Ole Miss on or after his visit -- a school that I don't think he had visited before. So, for Ole Miss, it fit the trend.

    Another exception, if I'm not mistaken, was the DB/WR/RB that ended up going to Notre Dame about half a dozen years ago....can't remember his name at the moment. Kid from St. Louis area.

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by lumuhawk on 6/8/2012 at 11:00 AM

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  • lumuhawk said...

    derHawk, In a way, he's a good example of an exception. I actually thought of him when I was writing this. Although he says Iowa led, once he visited, that was no longer the case. Then, suddenly, other schools were 'tied' or rising.

    He ended up commiting to Ole Miss on or after his visit -- a school that I don't think he had visited before. So, for Ole Miss, it fit the trend.

    Another exception, if I'm not mistaken, was the DB/WR/RB that ended up going to Notre Dame about half a dozen years ago....can't remember his name at the moment. Kid from St. Louis area.

    Antonio had visited Ole Miss before visiting Iowa. I think he was just blown away by the Ole Miss visit, so it was difficult for anything to hold a candle to that.

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  • Hawkeyedean said...

    Actually I think he's most interested in Nebby because he wants to play both ways and with Martinez throwing the ball he'll get to play both WR and DB

    lol I see what you did there. Very good job.

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  • derHawkeye said...

    I'll attempt to stoop to your level for a few moments to reply to you in order:

    Will he commit to Nebraska? -- Very likely, no reason to come to another teams board and throw that in our face. But don't get too cocky yet, we had Antonio Allen do the opposite to us where he felt fine with all the coaches but didn't like "something" at Iowa and went somewhere else. Honestly, his loss considering where he went.

    Iowa doesn't have the facilities? -- While I haven't seen, nor do I really care to see your facilities, you're living in a dream world. Most major BCS Conference (SEC, B1G, PAC-12, BIG-12) schools have relatively comparable facilities nowadays with these 4 conferences making massive amounts of money from tv deals. Trust me, I've seen Iowa's facilities first hand, they are far from bad and only getting better with the new football facility being built.

    Iowa doesn't have the fans? -- All I can ask is if you can hook me up with your dealer, because while we don't have a Ohio State or Michigan massive fan base, there are Hawkeye's everywhere, much more than you think. The only thing Nebraska outnumbers us in is bandwagon fans like I assume you are. Feel free not to answer, because I don't care. Also feel free to stick to your Husker board unless you're actually planning on having a respectful conversation with us or have some non-ignorant questions for us.

    You're just as bad as daddyact, how about you leave recruiting talk to the Nebraska fans who are capable of being respectful.

    Nice attitude! Typical Iowa arrogance! You obviously know very little about Nebraska's facilities or it's fan base. But that doesn't surprise me. You refuse to educate yourself and go online to learn something new. By the way, if you had read all the posts on this topic you would have seen that I apologized for any Iowa fans I might have offended. One other thing, I was on a Nebraska athletic web site when I clicked on this particular story. It sent me to this web site. It's not like I hunted down this web site so that I could comment about a common topic and play games with you that might hurt your "widdo feewings!" So settle down and cool your jets and roll with the punches. Just because your team got beat by my team on national television doesn't mean you have to act immature about it 7 months later!

    IowaHusker79

  • derHawkeye said...

    lol I see what you did there. Very good job.

    Very funny. Martinez won 9 games....AGAIN! How many games did Vandenburg win? By the way....20-7. Got any more immature comments?

    IowaHusker79

  • IowaHusker79 said...

    Very funny. Martinez won 9 games....AGAIN! How many games did Vandenburg win? By the way....20-7. Got any more immature comments?

    So the other 23 starters (counting kickers) had nothing to do with those games? Just because Martinez won more games, doesn't make him a better QB. Just sayin

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  • Husker79 said...

    Nice attitude! Typical Iowa arrogance! You obviously know very little about Nebraska's facilities or it's fan base. But that doesn't surprise me. You refuse to educate yourself and go online to learn something new. By the way, if you had read all the posts on this topic you would have seen that I apologized for any Iowa fans I might have offended. One other thing, I was on a Nebraska athletic web site when I clicked on this particular story. It sent me to this web site. It's not like I hunted down this web site so that I could comment about a common topic and play games with you that might hurt your "widdo feewings!" So settle down and cool your jets and roll with the punches. Just because your team got beat by my team on national television doesn't mean you have to act immature about it 7 months later!

    Are you like 10 years old? You are the one being immature with your shotty excuses for facts and own arrogance. You are a completely disrespectful fool who does nothing but make his own team look bad. Maybe YOU should educate yourself a little bit on the Hawkeyes since I guarantee you know less about anything Iowa Hawkeyes than I know or care about Nebraska, nothing personal, the program simply doesn't appeal to me as everything seems to be about your PAST instead of what is current and future.

    Trust me, nothing you could do or say would ever "hurt my feelings," I know what kind of person you are and I take everything you say and do accordingly. I give people like you very little thought or respect since you refuse to give those things to others unless they agree with everything you stand for. I've proven I can get along with Nebraska fans just fine as I have nothing really against the school itself, while you however have proven you can not get along with people here because of your extreme arrogance and disrespect for everything Iowa. You are the only one acting like a child here, you are the one trying to "hurt my widdo feewings" by stating already known facts like Iowa lost to Nebraska last year and you attempt to further hurt me by reminding that it was on national television. No one cares if you "apologized a couple of posts later" as if you actually MEANT NOT to be a arrogant fool, you would've went back to the post in question and edited the parts which you were "sorry" about.

    How or why you came over to this board in the first place is one thing and quite frankly I don't care for anything beyond the fact that you are knowingly, blatantly antagonizing Iowa fans with your posts. The fact that you CAME BACK to our board is however is proof that you ARE at least in some cases searching this board out to antagonize us. Please note a few months ago when I was ASKED to come over by another Nebraska fan for my knowledge about Iowa and typically respectful nature and the only antagonizing thing about me while I was over there for parts of 3 or so days seemed to have been my presence by itself to a few of you.

    Lastly, and this is to your 2nd post about Martinez winning 9 games, I would like to ask and would be very curious to see your response in proving that that post in itself wasn't completely immature. Nice try claiming that I'm the immature one though, I'm 21 and am showing far more maturity than you.

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  • Bloodrazor said...

    So the other 23 starters (counting kickers) had nothing to do with those games? Just because Martinez won more games, doesn't make him a better QB. Just sayin

    Just trying to deflect the same old criticism I keep reading about Martinez. Fans of other teams are always making fun of him yet he was good enough to start as a true freshman over a returning senior starter. He's led Nebraska to back to back 9 win seasons and two bowl game appearances. He's played for two different OC and played in two different conferences his first two years and thrown the ball to mostly freshman and sophomore wide receivers and still succeeded but yet he still gets vilified by fans of other teams. Just trying to defend the guy, that's all.

    IowaHusker79

  • derHawkeye said...

    Are you like 10 years old? You are the one being immature with your shotty excuses for facts and own arrogance. You are a completely disrespectful fool who does nothing but make his own team look bad. Maybe YOU should educate yourself a little bit on the Hawkeyes since I guarantee you know less about anything Iowa Hawkeyes than I know or care about Nebraska, nothing personal, the program simply doesn't appeal to me as everything seems to be about your PAST instead of what is current and future.

    Trust me, nothing you could do or say would ever "hurt my feelings," I know what kind of person you are and I take everything you say and do accordingly. I give people like you very little thought or respect since you refuse to give those things to others unless they agree with everything you stand for. I've proven I can get along with Nebraska fans just fine as I have nothing really against the school itself, while you however have proven you can not get along with people here because of your extreme arrogance and disrespect for everything Iowa. You are the only one acting like a child here, you are the one trying to "hurt my widdo feewings" by stating already known facts like Iowa lost to Nebraska last year and you attempt to further hurt me by reminding that it was on national television. No one cares if you "apologized a couple of posts later" as if you actually MEANT NOT to be a arrogant fool, you would've went back to the post in question and edited the parts which you were "sorry" about.

    How or why you came over to this board in the first place is one thing and quite frankly I don't care for anything beyond the fact that you are knowingly, blatantly antagonizing Iowa fans with your posts. The fact that you CAME BACK to our board is however is proof that you ARE at least in some cases searching this board out to antagonize us. Please note a few months ago when I was ASKED to come over by another Nebraska fan for my knowledge about Iowa and typically respectful nature and the only antagonizing thing about me while I was over there for parts of 3 or so days seemed to have been my presence by itself to a few of you.

    Lastly, and this is to your 2nd post about Martinez winning 9 games, I would like to ask and would be very curious to see your response in proving that that post in itself wasn't completely immature. Nice try claiming that I'm the immature one though, I'm 21 and am showing far more maturity than you.

    Wow, somebody needs a nap! Dude, it's only a college football conversation. Chill out! I didn't come here to antagonize anyone. I came here because Iowa and Nebraska are recruiting the same wide receiver and when I clicked on the link it sent me here. If you have a problem with that then go tell someone who cares because I don't! You come across like some little kid who didn't get the same amount of ice cream as the kid next to him. Grow up! Stop throwing temper tantrums and be mature. You act like your team is actually relevant in college football. It's not! You've just come off back to back 7 win seasons, you have the most overpaid head coach in all of college football and you have no tradition of national championships to fall back on. Your starting quarterback has one, count them..ONE!, road game win, you can't keep a running back on campus without him getting hurt or thrown in jail, you struggle with the likes of Iowa State and Minnesota, you finished last season unranked and YOU want to educate ME about college football? I can't stop laughing! This has been fun, I must say. Let me know when Iowa gets around to playing for a national championship and actually being relevant in the top 25. I hope to see you in Kinnick this November where, once again, Nebraska will show Iowa how real football is played! Don't bother responding because I'm not going to waste any more of my time with you. GO BIG RED !

    IowaHusker79

  • IowaHusker79 said...

    Wow, somebody needs a nap! Dude, it's only a college football conversation. Chill out! I didn't come here to antagonize anyone. I came here because Iowa and Nebraska are recruiting the same wide receiver and when I clicked on the link it sent me here. If you have a problem with that then go tell someone who cares because I don't! You come across like some little kid who didn't get the same amount of ice cream as the kid next to him. Grow up! Stop throwing temper tantrums and be mature. You act like your team is actually relevant in college football. It's not! You've just come off back to back 7 win seasons, you have the most overpaid head coach in all of college football and you have no tradition of national championships to fall back on. Your starting quarterback has one, count them..ONE!, road game win, you can't keep a running back on campus without him getting hurt or thrown in jail, you struggle with the likes of Iowa State and Minnesota, you finished last season unranked and YOU want to educate ME about college football? I can't stop laughing! This has been fun, I must say. Let me know when Iowa gets around to playing for a national championship and actually being relevant in the top 25. I hope to see you in Kinnick this November where, once again, Nebraska will show Iowa how real football is played! Don't bother responding because I'm not going to waste any more of my time with you. GO BIG RED !

    IowaHusker79, this board was created so many of us could get away from these types of moronic diatribes by opposing fans. I'd suggest you just go away and crawl back into your little world of the big Red. BTW, Pat Fitzgerald sends his best.

    SWOhioHawk

  • 24hawkeye said...

    IowaHusker79, this board was created so many of us could get away from these types of moronic diatribes by opposing fans. I'd suggest you just go away and crawl back into your little world of the big Red. BTW, Pat Fitzgerald sends his best.

    By the way, KEVIN GLADNEY JUST COMMITTED TO NEBRASKA! How ya' like us Huskers now?

    IowaHusker79

  • Husker79 said...

    By the way, KEVIN GLADNEY JUST COMMITTED TO NEBRASKA! How ya' like us Huskers now?

    Haha, you're such a loser troll. I can't wait for you to get banned.

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  • IowaHusker79 said...

    By the way, KEVIN GLADNEY JUST COMMITTED TO NEBRASKA! How ya' like us Huskers now?

    Hope he likes catching 12 balls a year in your offense

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  • IowaHusker79 said...

    By the way, KEVIN GLADNEY JUST COMMITTED TO NEBRASKA! How ya' like us Huskers now?

    No need to come here and intentionally antagonize Iowa fans. I trust that this won't happen again.

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  • Todd Worly said...

    No need to come here and intentionally antagonize Iowa fans. I trust that this won't happen again.

    MSUhammer

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  • Forget Gladney. Focus on this guy instead. Ok, he didn't play against the greatest CB but he could produce and has some moves on those punt returns.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aFtUlXuz10

    He did get offers from PSU and NEB.

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