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Oh me oh my....a lot of PSU posters were commenting how this reminded them of Saddam Hussein's statue coming down.

You can actually watch video of it happening...bout 54 minutes in, and the deed is done. I counted at least 15 workers...2 supervisors...on a SUNDAY? gotta be union.

Just goes to show that what many people were saying was way off base. All those arguments here saying they won't because they can't.

Well my thing was even if they were not able to as so many were saying, I didn't see how they were so sure that the NCAA wouldn't

I have a hard time believing they didn't break one rule either. There really was no rule against what they did? It seems like the lack of institutional control rule would be general enough. Well whatever, I will be glad when we can put this whole thing behind us.

I'm not disagreeing with that, I am just saying I was surprised so many honestly didn't think something would happen. I would also say that the Freeh report is a lot more than one man's opinion, there was a lot of investigation that went into it.

I am surprised they decided to keep his name on the library regardless if he donated the money

OhioHawk, I think you should rename this thread to OFFICIAL PSU THREAD. Trust me it will become the most epic thread on this site and it will save us 2 or 3 more threads on the same discussion tomorrow when SkyHawk hears or anything PSU related.

1.) This is a sad day. The NCAA took its sweet time with OSU. OSU violated actual NCAA rules, they knowingly played ineligible players, had players with no show jobs, boosters handing out money, coaches lying, and no coaches fired. The NCAA took over a year to hand a slap on the wrist. Even considering you know they were dirty when they had a moron like Mo.Clarrett on the team. I highly doubt Mo Clarrett couldve passed intro to college 101 and i wonder how T. Pryor passed any classes with quotes like "everybody murders people, steals from you steals from me"

2.) Miami was busted last year with a scandal that started in 2002 and lasted til 2010. This scandal included payments for GF's abortions, recruits and current players on the team. You think the NCAA couldve solved this problem well before the PSU problem if you compare when the two stories broke out. Miami is a repeat offender with the 95 pell grant scandal being very serious. Hell they had a kid on their team will a 200 on his SAT, you get 200 for spelling your name right.

3.) Oregon & Auburn. One had boosters pay for a kids service via through a father who still went to the championship game after they told him to stay away. And the other one had a middle man recruiter who later provides documents to the NCAA that just scream cover up. I doubt we see justice in these cases were maybe they could go PSU on them and make up a by-law and give them a “unprecedented” punishment.

4.) So lets comb through some fine print bullcrap, lets redefine some by-law, and also had out a punishment thats never be done before to satisfy the public opinion? I think what happen at PSU was horribly bad but its a criminal matter not a NCAA. I wouldve hate if the NCAA wouldve felt the public pressure to act when we went thru RHAMBO or the City Boyz INC time. I hope PSU sues the NCAA and wins, I’m about tired of these half acts. Where’s the NCAA on actual NCAA matters (competitive on field performance)? Thank you for solving the public’s blood thirst with PSU but IM still very thristy to see Miami, O$U, Oregon and Auburn get what they deserve for cheating and breaking rules that are very black and white not some grey BS that we just had here.

And I'll save you a joke about this whole post and just say I need a snickers.

“The purpose of the NCAA is to keep a level playing field among schools and to make sure they use proper methods through scholarships and etcetera. This is not a case that would normally go through the process. It has nothing to do with a level playing field.”
-- A former NCAA Committee on Infractions chair and current Division I Appeals Committee member

JoePa wasn’t a competitive advantage for PSU. He covered up this scandal for himself, and his legacy. You really think if PSU would’ve fired JoePa they would’ve been hurting in any sense of the term 10 years ago. The guy could barely make it to the bathroom, he “coached” from the booth and I put coached in quotations because I highly doubt he had any productive insight during those games. I’m willing to bet people like Tom Bradley and Galen Hall and a squeamish feeling when JoePa said something during the weekly planning for teams “Oh no whats this retired guy want us to do know, run plays from 1954?” JoePa was a disadvantage to PSU and its pretty easy to see why considering PSU played one coach down for all these years. Think about selling an old dude to recruits how hear every year that 1. He doesn’t coach, 2. Hes going to die, or to retire cause this is his last year… PSU has a great fan base(money, travel, quantity, hungry for success), offers a great education, a stadium that sits 100K plus, facilities that are in the top 20%, located in a football state that produces top notch athletes.

So that’s why I think this punishment is a joke. JoePa covered this up to save his legacy not the football team. Proof is in the pudding, look at the mess they are going through right now which is way worse considering it’s a cover up and their recruit & donations haven’t slowed one bit.

I would imagine the reason the NCAA acted so quickly on this is because PSU agreed to the punishment.

I also found it hilarious that a couple posters kept saying "its a civil, its not an NCAA issue".."NCAA has no business in this mess".

These people just write long posts that nobody wants to read backing their opinion. Nobody argued with them cause its such a waste of time when their mind is set in stone.

These same couple of posters will dominate this thread with long unreadable posts...oh wait they already have.

YEAH!!!!

Looks like the NCAA will be using this as a precedent to alert all others about the dangers of any type of coverup, since they did not take a similar opportunity to do so at tosu. (Still cannot believe they let the players involved play in the bowl game.) Must be trying to get their mojo back on. If you are looking for consistency, don't bother looking at the NCAA.

Or the NCAA thought they would never have to deal with an issue like this. So should they just ignore it because they didn't have any rules set up for something so heinous?