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One Reason You Will & One Reason You Won't: Win The B1G

  • Let me start by saying Nebraska didn't get to have a Spring Game. That nasty storm that pushed through the Midwest this past weekend knocked that out of the plans. Nebraska still had a great weekend in terms of recruiting, but the lack of a Spring Game has me a little empty.

    I saw a thread on the Blue Board, link here, for Big Ten Predictions. It was stated by the Michigan State poster Macks that our division could very well be a toss up between the Spartans, Huskers, and Wolverines this year. Not gonna lie -- He didn't mention the Hawkeyes. Doesn't mean he's right.

    Got me thinking. And wanting some football talk.

    So, how about one reason each -- why you will win the Big Ten, and why you will not.

    For Nebraska:

    Will: Because of Rex Burkhead. The warhorse keeps on keepin' and pulls us through a couple of tight game we wouldn't have won otherwise.

    Won't: Because of our front seven. We lost Jared Crick (though he was pretty ineffective last year) and Lavonte David. There's some experience in the front seven, but I'm more scared than anything at this point.

    What do you think, Hawkeyes?

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  • Why we will: Because we are supposed to be bad. Every time we are in this position, we tend to overcome and preform well. We'll have one of the best defensive backfields.

    Why we wont: Our starting QB has 1 road win. Our Oline lost 3 NFL future players. We lost our best WR of all time. We are learning a new offensive system under a new OC. We have a new coaches or coaches coaching new positions across the board. We lost our best RB's.... I could keep going. We are supposed to be dog crap bad with all the excuses I could give you but like I said Hawkeyes tend to fly better under the radar.

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  • I'll bite, and I'll toss in 2 for each just because....

    Will....
    1. Schedule- home games vs Nebby, Minny, PSU and Purdue. Road games vs. Mich., MSU, Indiana, NW. I think it is very realistic for Iowa to go 3-1 at home and on the road. Can 6-2 win the Legends? Mich plays both OSU and Illini, MSU has OSU and Wisky, And Nebby has OSU, PSU and Wisky. If Iowa can in all there cross-divisional games vs. Purdue, PSU and Indiana, then they have a very legitimate shot at winning the division.
    2. Defensive Back 7 - Iowa's LB play should be much improved and very deep. Lots of players have gained experience due to injuries the last 2 years. Morris seems to be playing with something to prove so far this spring, and Kirksey and Hitchens could be the most athletic duo of OLB in the conference. A year of B1G play under there belts should have them ready for the physicality of conference play. Alston and DiBona are both already acclimated to what it takes to play in the B1G filling in for injured guys the last few years, so both should be more than serviceable if thrust into action. Lowery and Hyde could arguably be the top CB tandem in the conference, and depth at CB is a strong suit as well, with Lomax, Castillo, Campbell, and Gavin Smith looking ready to step in and allow Parker to call a variety of different coverages. Miller is one year better at FS, and should be much more of a leader on the field this year, and Law has untapped potential, but will have to prove himself this fall. A solid Back 7 should allow Parker to vary the looks and take pressure off the young DL.

    Won't...
    1. Lacking playmakers- Iowa's offensive skill spots are depleted. Doesn't mean they can't have someone emerge, but right now there isn't much for proven playmakers on this team. Injuries have already effected the RB unit, and WR's are young and unexperienced. FB and TE play should be improved, but all the speed spots are nothing more than a "crap-shoot" coming out of the spring. Whose gonna score the points?
    2. DL play- arguably the weakest link on last years team, and this years team is even "greener." Very little experience and very little proven depth. Iowa couldn't form a formidable pass rush with there front 4 last year, and this years team appears to need some different looks to generate there pass rush because the DE's are a mixed bag of new faces, and the only returnee proven to show a pass rush is coming off ACL surgery. Hopefully some guys make some serious strides through the summer and fall and prove me wrong.

    This post was edited by HwkFn4Life on 4/18/2012 at 5:02 PM

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  • HwkFn4Life said...

    I'll bite, and I'll toss in 2 for each just because....

    Will.... 1. Schedule- home games vs Nebby, Minny, PSU and Purdue. Road games vs. Mich., MSU, Indiana, NW. I think it is very realistic for Iowa to go 3-1 at home and on the road. Can 6-2 win the Legends? Mich plays both OSU and Illini, MSU has OSU and Wisky, And Nebby has OSU, PSU and Wisky. If Iowa can in all there cross-divisional games vs. Purdue, PSU and Indiana, then they have a very legitimate shot at winning the division. 2. Defensive Back 7 - Iowa's LB play should be much improved and very deep. Lots of players have gained experience due to injuries the last 2 years. Morris seems to be playing with something to prove so far this spring, and Kirksey and Hitchens could be the most athletic duo of OLB in the conference. A year of B1G play under there belts should have them ready for the physicality of conference play. Alston and DiBona are both already acclimated to what it takes to play in the B1G filling in for injured guys the last few years, so both should be more than serviceable if thrust into action. Lowery and Hyde could arguably be the top CB tandem in the conference, and depth at CB is a strong suit as well, with Lomax, Castillo, Campbell, and Gavin Smith looking ready to step in and allow Parker to call a variety of different coverages. Miller is one year better at FS, and should be much more of a leader on the field this year, and Law has untapped potential, but will have to prove himself this fall. A solid Back 7 should allow Parker to vary the looks and take pressure off the young DL.

    Won't... 1. Lacking playmakers- Iowa's offensive skill spots are depleted. Doesn't mean they can't have someone emerge, but right now there isn't much for proven playmakers on this team. Injuries have already effected the RB unit, and WR's are young and unexperienced. FB and TE play should be improved, but all the speed spots are nothing more than a "crap-shoot" coming out of the spring. Whose gonna score the points? 2. DL play- arguably the weakest link on last years team, and this years team is even "greener." Very little experience and very little proven depth. Iowa couldn't form a formidable pass rush with there front 4 last year, and this years team appears to need some different looks to generate there pass rush because the DE's are a mixed bag of new faces, and the only returnee proven to show a pass rush is coming off ACL surgery. Hopefully some guys make some serious strides through the summer and fall and prove me wrong.

    Fun topic here, and HwkFn4Life said a lot of what I was thinking.

    With Iowa's schedule, the Hawkeyes could conceivably go 9-3 or 10-2 and not even be that good. Depending on who those losses come against, Iowa could very well be in the mix for a division title.

    Also, Iowa's back seven on defense could be very deep and very talented. IMO, the linebackers weren't even close to as good as they needed to be last year. I'm looking for Kirksey to make some serious strides with a year of starting experience under his belt and some offseason gains in the weight room, and Morris should also be poised to take another leap forward. I like what I've seen out of Hitchens, and think he could be a major upgrade over Nielsen. And there is plenty of competition and depth aside from those guys. If the defensive line can put anything together, the Iowa defense could be outstanding.

    But that's the biggest if. The defensive line was a glaring weakness last year when it came to rushing the passer, and the best player from that group (Mike Daniels) is now gone. If Iowa ends up becoming a great defense, at least one defensive end and one defensive tackle will need to have a breakout season.

    Also, for the Hawkeyes to be as good as they can be on offense, some fresh faces will have to step up their game on the offensive line. By the end of the season, that group was pretty good across the board, but they lost their top three players.

    I'm expecting/hoping that Vandenberg makes some significant strides in 2012. And while there are plenty of question marks at receiver and running back, I still think it all comes down to the offensive line. If those guys play well, I have confidence that someone will step up at running back and receiver. And CJ and Rogers should both have outstanding seasons as well, which will help in both the running and passing game.

    Why Iowa doesn't win:

    1. No one emerges with a breakout season on the defensive line. The pass rush still isn't nearly good enough, leading the defense to give up too many big plays. Also, while the linebackers should be very deep and talented, a couple injuries here or there could really change the picture.

    2. Iowa is unable to replace the three starters lost on the offensive line. The new running back(s) can't establish any kind of confidence or rhythm because they have no room to run, and Vandenberg's lack of pocket presence is really exposed because the Hawkeyes can't protect him.

    Recruiting Analyst for Voice of the Hawkeyes. Email: tworly@yahoo.com; Twitter: @ToddWorly247

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  • fuisu said...

    Why we will: Because we are supposed to be bad. Every time we are in this position, we tend to overcome and preform well. We'll have one of the best defensive backfields.

    I remember a lot of mention about this last year. Throughout the summer leading into our inaugural season, we were told the Hawkeyes simply do better when flying under the radar.

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  • fuisu said...

    Why we wont: Our starting QB has 1 road win. Our Oline lost 3 NFL future players. We lost our best WR of all time. We are learning a new offensive system under a new OC. We have a new coaches or coaches coaching new positions across the board. We lost our best RB's.... I could keep going. We are supposed to be dog crap bad with all the excuses I could give you but like I said Hawkeyes tend to fly better under the radar.

    I remember thinking about how much offensive talent you'd be losing when I was looking at your lineup last year. Any replacements that are really sticking out in spring ball?

    How's the QB situation? Is the only concern game experience?

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  • HwkFn4Life said...

    I'll bite, and I'll toss in 2 for each just because....

    Will.... 1. Schedule- home games vs Nebby, Minny, PSU and Purdue. Road games vs. Mich., MSU, Indiana, NW. I think it is very realistic for Iowa to go 3-1 at home and on the road. Can 6-2 win the Legends? Mich plays both OSU and Illini, MSU has OSU and Wisky, And Nebby has OSU, PSU and Wisky. If Iowa can in all there cross-divisional games vs. Purdue, PSU and Indiana, then they have a very legitimate shot at winning the division.

    I cannot put into words how exciting the 2013 season is. Haha. We have Illinois, Purdue, and Minnesota and avoid Ohio State and Wisconsin. BEAUTIFUL compared to the first couple of years.

    Looking at what you've got -- It's hard to disagree. Some very win-able games for you this coming season.

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  • BornToBeRed said...

    I remember thinking about how much offensive talent you'd be losing when I was looking at your lineup last year. Any replacements that are really sticking out in spring ball?

    How's the QB situation? Is the only concern game experience?

    No, the concern that he was referring to regarding Vandenberg is that he hasn't performed nearly as well in road games. He's got 15 starts under his belt, though.

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  • Todd Worly said...

    No, the concern that he was referring to regarding Vandenberg is that he hasn't performed nearly as well in road games. He's got 15 starts under his belt, though.

    My mistake. I didn't think Vandenberg was back this year.

    Todd, you mention the OL as a potential reason for "won't win." Has the spring given Iowa much of an idea of who is replacing them and how well they're doing?

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  • BornToBeRed said...

    I cannot put into words how exciting the 2013 season is. Haha. We have Illinois, Purdue, and Minnesota and avoid Ohio State and Wisconsin. BEAUTIFUL compared to the first couple of years.

    Looking at what you've got -- It's hard to disagree. Some very win-able games for you this coming season.

    That's definitely a major schedule break. You'd think there'd be some way to ensure that a program like Nebraska wouldn't miss two of the top conference teams in one season, but that's not the first time the B1G office has disappointed.

    The only problem as far as the Huskers are concerned is that they could have a phenomenal team that year, but won't be taken seriously as a national title contender no matter what due to their schedule.

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  • Todd Worly said...

    That's definitely a major schedule break. You'd think there'd be some way to ensure that a program like Nebraska wouldn't miss two of the top conference teams in one season, but that's not the first time the B1G office has disappointed.

    The only problem as far as the Huskers are concerned is that they could have a phenomenal team that year, but won't be taken seriously as a national title contender no matter what due to their schedule.

    That 'problem' is a very real possibility. Our out of conference is Wyoming, Southern Miss, and UCLA. Not exactly stacked. With that being Martinez's senior year, and with a lot of our skill position players returning -- it should be a damn sharp offense.

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  • BornToBeRed said...

    My mistake. I didn't think Vandenberg was back this year.

    Todd, you mention the OL as a potential reason for "won't win." Has the spring given Iowa much of an idea of who is replacing them and how well they're doing?

    Iowa typically produces good offensive linemen, so conventional wisdom would be that someone will step up. There are several guys in the mix to earn a starting spot, so there should be some pretty fierce competition in fall camp. I don't think we'll get a true gauge for how they're doing until we see how they perform on Saturday afternoons.

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  • BornToBeRed said...

    That 'problem' is a very real possibility. Our out of conference is Wyoming, Southern Miss, and UCLA. Not exactly stacked. With that being Martinez's senior year, and with a lot of our skill position players returning -- it should be a damn sharp offense.

    What's the opinion on that of most Husker fans? Personally, I'd be upset if a potential national title contender were unable to actually contend because of the B1G's schedule.

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  • Todd Worly said...

    What's the opinion on that of most Husker fans? Personally, I'd be upset if a potential national title contender were unable to actually contend because of the B1G's schedule.

    Frankly, it hasn't come up yet. The only reason we have to look that far ahead as of right now is in terms of depth with regards to recruiting. I think some fans realize how soft it'll be in 2013, but most wouldn't.

    If it came down to that, you would have a great time reading Husker boards. We've wanted a stronger OOC schedule for years now. Yet this coming season we're playing Arkansas State. Before Malzahan, that game had no appeal whatsoever. And even now, it's pretty minimal. If it kept us from a title shot... Man, our boards would get ugly. lol

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  • BornToBeRed said...

    Frankly, it hasn't come up yet. The only reason we have to look that far ahead as of right now is in terms of depth with regards to recruiting. I think some fans realize how soft it'll be in 2013, but most wouldn't.

    If it came down to that, you would have a great time reading Husker boards. We've wanted a stronger OOC schedule for years now. Yet this coming season we're playing Arkansas State. Before Malzahan, that game had no appeal whatsoever. And even now, it's pretty minimal. If it kept us from a title shot... Man, our boards would get ugly. lol

    lol I gotcha! Just thinking out loud here, but two years in college football can make a huge difference. UCLA could be rolling by that point with their new coaching staff, making that an impressive win. And if schools like Penn State, Michigan State, Iowa and Michigan have good teams that year, those would be impressive wins as well. And then you'd also have the B1G championship game where you could conceivably face osu or wisconsin.

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  • Todd Worly said...

    lol I gotcha! Just thinking out loud here, but two years in college football can make a huge difference. UCLA could be rolling by that point with their new coaching staff, making that an impressive win. And if schools like Penn State, Michigan State, Iowa and Michigan have good teams that year, those would be impressive wins as well. And then you'd also have the B1G championship game where you could conceivably face osu or wisconsin.

    No question. Two years from now could prove to be an entirely different scenario, but mostly in terms of conference teams. Again, we still have Wyoming and Southern Miss. Though Southern Miss isn't the worst, they don't garner much respect outside of when it comes time to pick them in bowl season games. Then they're miraculously supposed to be world-beaters. Wyoming? Like I even need to explain.

    As for conference teams, I suspect Michigan State and Michigan will be near the top. I see State as a team that consistently does well, and occasionally great. Michigan is pulling a lot of talent right now. If Hoke can coach them up and fit the pieces together, they're going to be a problem for Nebraska for years to come. I have no idea what to think of Penn State, personally. I think their hire passes the eye test, but it's going to take a lot more than that to compete for the Big Ten Championship. I'll hold off on judging that one. Iowa... Well, I frankly haven't formed an opinion of Iowa yet. As a Kansas City kid, I don't have as much interaction with Hawkeyes as some of our other fans. The only thing I've got right now is that your AIRBHG situation is now one I envy. Yowza.

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  • Good disscussion here....tgraham approved

    Why Win? ..... um just reaching here lol
    1. New Offense and new wrinkles might throw some people off of our old game plan if we can figure it out by the season.
    2. We are looking to become a more aggressive defense which is high risk/high reward with our current defense. I think it is the right way to go with so many green and talented d-lineman. We might give up a few more big plays, but we won't allow a QB to sit in the pocket for 12 minutes before tossing a 11 yard pass on 3rd and 9.
    3. New coaches bring new life.
    4. Biggest reach...our Punter is also a QB.....maybe a trick play?????? yaaaa....wishful thinking.

    Why Not?
    1. Young Defensive Line....talented...but very young
    2. You can't lose the top WR, one of the top Big 10 RB's, the top LT/RT duo in the Big 10 and expect to not take a hit.
    3. This is in the why we win, but could be very easily the reason we lose. Getting to aggressive on defense.

    Stop By Again!

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