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***Official Iowa Wrestling Thread****

  • Ok boys and girls I do not know how many people on here are interested about Iowa Wrestling but I am an absolute freak about it. It goes hand in hand with football for me. So I am starting this thread and along with the help of Fuisu and KFsuperstar (and hopefully DK if he is around) We want to chat about wrestling and I don't care even if it is about another team I have a pretty good knowledge about most aspects of college wrestling and recruiting. So if you have any questions or just want to talk about wrestling,recruiting whatever let us post in here. Thanks and I hope this can be a fun and helpful thread.

    PS SCHEDULE NOW INCLUDED

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by HawkiBrad55 on 4/30/2013 at 10:46 AM

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    Gold medals aren't really made of gold. They're made of sweat, determination, and a hard-to-find alloy called guts.

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  • I've been watching some Olympic freestyle. Im not an expert or prefer freestyle but its been nice. Watched a couple of Burroughs matches. Hard not to like that guy. Watched Varner. Its hard for me to root for Varner with Sanderson in his corner but hey its the Olympics. I cant explain my dislike for Sanderson. Liked him as a wrestler, neutral on him as ISU coach but when he went to PSU everything changed. Its not the fact hes won 2 in a row and soon to be 3. It was more how he handled the Andrew Long situation.

    KFSuperStar

  • Out in Husker land unfortunately, I havent been able to watch much but I did see that Jordan Burrough's wrestle and people out here were really were proud. I watch it at the bar and I was pretty surprised the amount of people with interest on is match......Commence reply "cool story bro". Didnt Metcalf use to dominate Jordan?

    If anybody knows als96 from scout, or pin2win from HN.com or minnhawkeye from HR.com tell them to come over here and help us with some insight. Those guys usually got good stuff.

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    15 National Championships and one Urban Meyer heart attack, Roll Tide. 23 NC's in wrestling and one badass Herky, Go Hawks.

    fuisu

  • Question here? What is the difference between the different styles of wrestling? Like FreeStyle, Greco, and things of that sort? I was never into wrestling so I honestly dont have any idea.

    kingiowa

  • kingiowa said...

    Question here? What is the difference between the different styles of wrestling? Like FreeStyle, Greco, and things of that sort? I was never into wrestling so I honestly dont have any idea.

    Well honestly King I am not real familiar with greco and freestyle. But greco involves more throws and freestyle you cant use your hands when you are down, push out of bounds are a point take downs and turns are points it is a whole different ball game that I would like to know more about but it is never on enough for me to catch the real concept of it. Sorry I just have more knowledge on folkstyle wrestling

    This post was edited by HawkiBrad55 on 8/13/2012 at 10:26 AM

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  • Wrestling S&C coach:

    Song is no longer listed on the staff as far as other posters can tell. It is speculated that Zadick has been offered that spot.

    This post was edited by fuisu on 8/13/2012 at 11:01 AM

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    15 National Championships and one Urban Meyer heart attack, Roll Tide. 23 NC's in wrestling and one badass Herky, Go Hawks.

    fuisu

  • Most people in the USA are more familiar with "Folkstyle" wrestling as that is what our HS & Colleges use for competition. The rest of the world only competes in Freestyle & Greco, thus they are referred to as international styles here in the US. Greco consists of upper body wrestling only, you cannot attack the legs in any way that includes grasping, tripping or blocking. A lot of people think Greco just consists of throws, but in reality most points scored in Greco come from pushouts or snap downs to front headlocks. Freestyle can look a lot like Folkstyle other than the mat wrestling or the "parre terre" position. You really do not ride your opponent when you are on top in Freestyle or Greco, rather you get a short amount of time to turn your opponent before you are forced back to the neutral position. Scoring for Greco and Freestyle are very similiar, 1 pt. for takedown, 2 pts. for exposing your opponents shoulder to the mat. 1pt. for holding your opponents shoulder to the mat for a total of 5 continous seconds, 3 pts. if you take your opponent from his feet to his back, 5 pts. if you lift your opponent, exposing his back while landing in the danger (near fall) position, like what was noted previously you also can gain 1 pt. for forcing your opponents entire body out of bounds. To win in the international styles you must win 2 out of the 3 periods and points are not cumulative, but a fall at anytime ends the match. So if you win the first period 6-0 but lose the last two periods 1-0, you still lose although you have the total scoring advantage. There are many other rules, but that is a quick snapshot.

    USAFhawk

  • Olympic coverage of wrestling was garbage. At least the matches were on TV, but NBC never told anybody what time specifically they were going to be on, just a block of time (like 9am-5pm) that they were going to air.

    I talked a little bit with Burroughs at the National Championships and saw the clinic that he did, he's a really great guy, even though he went to Nebraska. I couldn't believe he double-legged the Iranian (twice!). I just thought that the Iranian was too big to do that to.

    Also, for me, freestyle is not nearly as exciting as college wrestling is. Even freestyle. Too often it comes down to the ball draw to decide who wins a period, which I think is dumb.

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    swarm2kinnick

  • Holy crap usaf I thought u was dead Ty for that and sorry swarm I forgot to mention u could help out too with great wrestling insight

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    Gold medals aren't really made of gold. They're made of sweat, determination, and a hard-to-find alloy called guts.

    HawkiBrad55

  • fuisu said...

    Wrestling S&C coach:

    Song is no longer listed on the staff as far as other posters can tell. It is speculated that Zadick has been offered that spot.

    "Take it for what it is worth, but Zadick is no longer listed in the U of I phone directory. History shows they keep it relatively current." per spooner on HR

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    fuisu

  • I can't believe that they just let Zadick go like that.

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  • I cant either have u heard any rumblings why swarm?

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  • hawkeyebrad55 said...

    I cant either have u heard any rumblings why swarm?

    Other then to get M* to work with the upper weights, no.

    I know he had a warning against him at nationals this year. I might have read something somewhere sometime about Brands giving him a warning about SOMETHING, but i can't remember what/if anything. Pretty vague eh?

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  • Brands is not going to allow Sanderson to establish himself as top dog for any length of time. If that means changing his staff, he will. He is not a "gentleman" like Jimmie Z.

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  • IamSparty said...

    Brands is not going to allow Sanderson to establish himself as top dog for any length of time. If that means changing his staff, he will. He is not a "gentleman" like Jimmie Z.

    Better believe that and although Morningstar gave me heart attaks and was some what lazy that guy could wrestle and knows his censored

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  • Personally, I find the "international" styles boring and only pay attention to them during the Olympics. Although, I would love to see them adopt the push-out rule in folkstyle since the referees apparently don't have the stones to call stalling any more and keep the action moving. (What happened to the early season point of emphasis last year?)

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  • IamSparty said...

    Brands is not going to allow Sanderson to establish himself as top dog for any length of time. If that means changing his staff, he will. He is not a "gentleman" like Jimmie Z.

    That's fine.

    But Brands didn't even TELL Zadick, he found out when M* came and took the job. Granted from some reports Zadick just kind of assumed he had the job and the interview was only a formality, but still. Brands should have told him to his face, you're not getting the job.

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  • ISU snags Woiwor, ranked as the nation's No. 51 overall senior recruit. Projects as a 157/165-pounder

    And former Iowa wrestler joins Cornell as asst coach, Chad Beatty

    InterMat Wrestling - InterMat Recruiting Notebook: Class of 2013

    http://intermatwrestle.com/articles/10419

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    15 National Championships and one Urban Meyer heart attack, Roll Tide. 23 NC's in wrestling and one badass Herky, Go Hawks.

    fuisu

  • fuisu said...

    ISU snags Woiwor, ranked as the nation's No. 51 overall senior recruit. Projects as a 157/165-pounder

    And former Iowa wrestler joins Cornell as asst coach, Chad Beatty

    That ranking for the ISU recruit is higher than what Ive seen elsewhere. Doesnt matter either way because ISU is done sinking, they have sunk.

    Iowa is rumored to have a German national coming in. Projects at 157/165. Former jr world team member. Dont know much else. Wrestling recruiting news is impossible to come by.

    KFSuperStar

  • Brian Smith (Missouri's head coach) all for having the National Duels decide the National Champ

    Brian Smith - All For The National Duals Change | Brian Smith Videos | Flowrestling

    There is a very big issue facing college wrestling right now. There has been a proposal to make it so that there is a switch from the individual NCAA tournament to the National ... Brian Smith Videos

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  • Not going to take an opinion from a coach of a team that has no conference. So sorry

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  • hawkeyebrad55 said...

    Not going to take an opinion from a coach of a team that has no conference. So sorry

    Lol they'll probably be back in a major conference with two years.

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  • swarm2kinnick said...

    Lol they'll probably be back in a major conference with two years.

    So has any decision been made what conference Mizz will wrestle in this year?

    KFSuperStar

  • swarm2kinnick said...

    Lol they'll probably be back in a major conference with two years.

    I know but when they have no conference they would be better off team wrestling for a chance. But I hate Mizzu wrestling so nothing I say will be nicebiggrin

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