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I'm not at all saying Vandenberg is blameless for Iowa's offensive struggles in 2012, but I think most NFL folks watching tape will realize that the pass protection was poor, the receivers struggled and the entire unit struggled to become comfortable in the new system. As a pure passer, he's got an NFL skillset. As I said before, if he continues to improve his pocket presence, I think he'll definitely stick in the league. That's the key, IMO.

Also, as a late round pick or undrafted free agent, there's a very good chance he won't see much, if any, game action as a rookie. As long as that team's coaching staff remains intact heading into 2014, Vandenberg should have plenty of time to learn the new system without being rushed.

If you recall during the season, while I was critical of Vandenberg when I felt it was warranted, I never thought he was anywhere near Iowa's biggest problem on offense, and never thought he should be benched. So everything I'm saying now follows that same train of thought.

Regarding the comparison to Banks, they're completely different types of players. Banks obviously had a better college career, but some college quarterbacks don't have the skillset that translates to the NFL, regardless of how productive they were in college. On the other hand, some quarterbacks will be better in the NFL (relatively speaking) than they were in college because their game translates better to that level.

During this past season I was critical of JVB's play. I was calling for him to be benched. But you know what, I also understood that GD's system last year was crap. Dink and dunk. Don't challenge down the field. And he wasn't the only who struggled with that crap system last year. But it sure doesn't mean he can't cut it at the next level.

And as for "we will have to agree to disagree"...no, not quite. For not supporting a HAWKEYE, and especially to those rooting against him, I say screw you all. The 7th level of Cyclone Hell is reserved for such Hawkeye "fans".

...well if there are, they now know where they are going

I'm not rooting against him at all. I wish the very best for JVB.

IMO, after seeing him lock in on receivers, miss wide open receivers, and throw passes which at times were off target, I see a quarterback who regressed his senior season.

While I agree there are other factors which played into Iowa's unsuccessful season, what I mention above are on the QB.

I hope I'm wrong and he makes an NFL roster. I just don't see it.

Because I don't think JVB is good enough to be an NFL QB, it does not mean I don't support a Hawkeye.

Found some more.

Iowa's James Vandenberg was third among quarterbacks in the vertical jump at 32 inches, second in the three-cone drill, fourth in the broad jump at 116 inches, seventh with a 4.92 in the 40-yard dash, and tied for 10th in the 20-yard shuttle.

With some guys, the light never really comes on in terms of pocket presence. With others, it's a matter of getting more and more game reps. The encouraging thing, as far as Vandenberg is concerned, is that his pocket presence was noticeably better in 2012 than it was in 2011. It's still not good enough to start in the NFL, but he won't be expected to reach that level for at least a few years, if ever, so he'll have plenty of time to continue developing that skill.

Combine results

I didn't know NFL.com was the one bible for the NFL personally. It seems to be pretty popular here for some reason. Most sites have him as FS. Unless he kills it at the 40 it looks like that's where most places have him at.

225 I believe.

Since the NFL is the one running the combine, thats where I choose to get the info. Its uploaded nearly instantaneously. Most everywhere else I seen he was being listed as a Z-CB. I just found the FS bit interesting.

Agreed.

First day should be the agility drills. Second day should be pick 3 power lifts: dead lift, hang clean, squat, power clean, bench, snatch. From there they should have the option to show a 90% max or a 225 burnout.