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***Iowa vs. Indiana Game Thread***

  • Big game tonight in Assembly Hall. If Iowa can (somehow) pull off the upset, it would go a LONG way toward getting the Hawks to the NCAA Tournament. hoopshawkeyes

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  • iowa It could happen. I've seen crazier things (see PSU win over Michigan)

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  • AH will be rocking tonight. Can't wait for this game

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  • As of now IU is a 14.5 point favorite. Not sure if take that spread

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  • Oaken said...

    As of now IU is a 14.5 point favorite. Not sure if take that spread

    I think it'll either be a blowout win for IU or a close win for Iowa.

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  • Hawkifish said...

    I think it'll either be a blowout win for IU or a close win for Iowa.

    That's what makes this game pretty difficult to predict, IMO. Indiana is good enough and plays the style to blow out Iowa, but the Hawkeyes are also capable of stealing this game. While both games were at Carver, Iowa has hung very tough and/or won the last two times these teams have played. The Hawkeye players should have the confidence that they can get this done.

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  • Here are three keys to winning tonight for Iowa:

    - Indiana has too much talent on offense for Iowa to not continue lighting up the scoreboard on its end. Oglesby needs to hit some big threes, Marble needs to be efficient and Iowa needs to get to the free throw line and knock them down.

    - Iowa has to limit Indiana's second chances, so rebounding is a must. When Iowa does force IU to miss, the last thing Iowa can afford to do is give up the rebound to the Hoosiers and give them another shot. No chance to win if that's happening on a regular basis.

    - Iowa has to limit its turnovers, especially live ball turnovers. Again, Indiana is very talented offensively, so they're going to score regardless. But you need to force them to score all of their points in a halfcourt setting, rather than getting easy buckets in transition.

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  • Todd Worly said...

    Here are three keys to winning tonight for Iowa:

    - Indiana has too much talent on offense for Iowa to not continue lighting up the scoreboard on its end. Oglesby needs to hit some big threes, Marble needs to be efficient and Iowa needs to get to the free throw line and knock them down.

    - Iowa has to limit Indiana's second chances, so rebounding is a must. When Iowa does force IU to miss, the last thing Iowa can afford to do is give up the rebound to the Hoosiers and give them another shot. No chance to win if that's happening on a regular basis.

    - Iowa has to limit its turnovers, especially live ball turnovers. Again, Indiana is very talented offensively, so they're going to score regardless. But you need to force them to score all of their points in a halfcourt setting, rather than getting easy buckets in transition.

    Good stuff, Todd. I especially agree with your point about getting to the free throw line. I think Marble, White, and Basabe need to all be aggressive early and often for Iowa to have a chance.

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  • Indiana favored by 14.

    However, we are due for a big one to go our way.

    Let's Go Hawks!

    NYCHawkeye

  • Well, Gottlieb said Iowa will lose tonight, win vs Illinois and Nebraska at home. Then win the first game in the BTT and sneak into the NCAA tournament today. So, that's exciting.

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  • I try to not even think about post season until the regular season and BTT tourney are done, but it's damn near impossible not to.

    And yeah, Josh is really gonna need to knock down some 3's tonight to give us a chance. Gesell has been hitting those mid-range jumpers and that, among other things from him, will be seriously missed.

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  • PerkAslut said...

    I try to not even think about post season until the regular season and BTT tourney are done, but it's damn near impossible not to.

    And yeah, Josh is really gonna need to knock down some 3's tonight to give us a chance. Gesell has been hitting those mid-range jumpers and that, among other things from him, will be seriously missed.

    Yeah, Indiana is a very tough team to beat unless you can shoot with them, and limit their open shots. They are the best 3pt shooting team in the nation by percentage.

    I agree with Todd, too. Although, Iowa has been a much better rebounding team this year when compared to last year so I would like to think that they can continue to battle the boards tonight. Also, if Iowa is just turning it over unforced like they have this year, it'll get really ugly tonight. Gotta keep possession of the ball in order to make the most of each possession.

    Tonight's game is huge, as it could really sway Iowa's RPI forward with a win. I don't see that happening, unfortunately. Indiana can be too much at times, especially at Assembly Hall, and I really doubt they are looking past an Iowa team that was nearly able to knock them off earlier this year. For a team that really can struggle on the road (and I really believe its youth, or at least I'd like to) Iowa needs to play lights out tonight to win. Tough task at hand, but this is a good preparation for Illinois and the BTT, as was the rest of the conference slate.

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  • UI2015 said...

    Well, Gottlieb said Iowa will lose tonight, win vs Illinois and Nebraska at home. Then win the first game in the BTT and sneak into the NCAA tournament today. So, that's exciting.

    I've always liked Gottlieb. Though I know a lot of people hate his controversial views.

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  • UI2015 said...

    Yeah, Indiana is a very tough team to beat unless you can shoot with them, and limit their open shots. They are the best 3pt shooting team in the nation by percentage.

    I agree with Todd, too. Although, Iowa has been a much better rebounding team this year when compared to last year so I would like to think that they can continue to battle the boards tonight. Also, if Iowa is just turning it over unforced like they have this year, it'll get really ugly tonight. Gotta keep possession of the ball in order to make the most of each possession.

    Tonight's game is huge, as it could really sway Iowa's RPI forward with a win. I don't see that happening, unfortunately. Indiana can be too much at times, especially at Assembly Hall, and I really doubt they are looking past an Iowa team that was nearly able to knock them off earlier this year. For a team that really can struggle on the road (and I really believe its youth, or at least I'd like to) Iowa needs to play lights out tonight to win. Tough task at hand, but this is a good preparation for Illinois and the BTT, as was the rest of the conference slate.

    Good points all around. I haven't read through all of the RPI thread, but I think it's a bit of an overstated measure. I don't think the committee puts near the emphasis on it as they have in the past. And they shouldn't, it's just a dumb.

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  • PerkAslut said...

    Good points all around. I haven't read through all of the RPI thread, but I think it's a bit of an overstated measure. I don't think the committee puts near the emphasis on it as they have in the past. And they shouldn't, it's just a dumb.

    Absolutely. The reason Iowa's is so low compared to, say, Iowa St, Kentucky, California, etc.. is because of the low ranked wins. Those teams have roughly the same number of wins as Iowa does, around 19. They just beat "less bad" teams. For instance I'll compare Iowa's RPI to Iowa St's RPI (and not because they are our rival, but because they are a good example of my point).

    Iowa has wins vs. 15, 24, 54, 83(neutral site), 133, 140, 140(at), 177(neutral), 181, 189, 189(at), 245, 271, 309, 310, 327, 332, 342.
    Iowa's losses: 7, 8, 11(at), 15(at), 18(at), 24(at), 14(neutral), 103(at), 133(at), 165(at).
    --So Iowa has 2 top 25 wins, and 3 "good" wins. Iowa's bad losses really are only at Purdue and at VaTech, because Nebraska is close, and likely to be below 100 by the end of the season.

    Iowa St wins: 21, 25, 59(at), 59, 60, 99, 117, 129, 132(neutral), 195, 218, 219, 230, 230(at), 263, 285, 289(at), 328
    Losses: 4, 4(at), 16(at), 21(at), 26(at), 51(neutral), 91(at), 129(at), 219(at)
    --2 top 25 wins, roughly 4/5 good wins. 2 bad losses, with one being absolutely terrible.The only reason they are ranked 40 spots higher than Iowa is because they have one win against 300+, Iowa has 5. If those teams were 200s, Iowa would probably be mid 60s right now, and predicted in or last 4 out.

    Though you probably all know this stuff already, and this was a giant waste of time and space, but I had fun looking at the numbers anyways so I'll still post it here.

    TL;DR - RPI is outdated. Iowa played more "more bad" teams.

    This post was edited by UI2015 on 3/2/2013 at 5:51 PM

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  • UI2015 said...

    Absolutely. The reason Iowa's is so low compared to, say, Iowa St, Kentucky, California, etc.. is because of the low ranked wins. Those teams have roughly the same number of wins as Iowa does, around 19. They just beat "less bad" teams. For instance I'll compare Iowa's RPI to Iowa St's RPI (and not because they are our rival, but because they are a good example of my point).

    Iowa has wins vs. 15, 24, 54, 83(neutral site), 133, 140, 140(at), 177(neutral), 181, 189, 189(at), 245, 271, 309, 310, 327, 332, 342. Iowa's losses: 7, 8, 11(at), 15(at), 18(at), 24(at), 14(neutral), 103(at), 133(at), 165(at). --So Iowa has 2 top 25 wins, and 3 "good" wins. Iowa's bad losses really are only at Purdue and at VaTech, because Nebraska is close, and likely to be below 100 by the end of the season.

    Iowa St wins: 21, 25, 59(at), 59, 60, 99, 117, 129, 132(neutral), 195, 218, 219, 230, 230(at), 263, 285, 289(at), 328 Losses: 4, 4(at), 16(at), 21(at), 26(at), 51(neutral), 91(at), 129(at), 219(at) --2 top 25 wins, roughly 4/5 good wins. 2 bad losses, with one being absolutely terrible.The only reason they are ranked 40 spots higher than Iowa is because they have one win against 300+, Iowa has 5. If those teams were 200s, Iowa would probably be mid 60s right now, and predicted in or last 4 out.

    Though you probably all know this stuff already, and this was a giant waste of time and space, but I had fun looking at the numbers anyways so I'll still post it here.

    TL;DR - RPI is outdated. Iowa played more "more bad" teams.

    Outstanding breakdown here. Thanks for putting that together!

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    Todd Worly

  • go iowa - tip time!!!!

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    bphawkeye

  • This has been a very sloppy game so far. Iowa looks rattled. I would love to see Clemmons come in and run some offense, no offense to Marble, but it just seems like the offense is stagnant already and you don't wanna go too far down at IU early. Feed Basabe too, he's gonna do good tonight.

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  • turnover #7 already. what the heck?!

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  • and there's #8. unreal. banghead

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    ChicagoHawk

  • 8 turnovers, 4 shots, a little over 6 minutes. WTF.

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    UI2015

  • Already have Indiana in the bonus...

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    ChicagoHawk

  • I can't decide to be upset that we are playing sloppy, or be glad that we are only down 5

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    ChicagoHawk

  • lucky to be close

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    bphawkeye

  • We are tighter than a compound bow string. We need to loosen up and play ball. We are trying for home run passes and getting turnovers instead. There is plenty of time to turn this around. But we need to start playing better or it is a done deal.

    ps. Fran agrees with me. He just got the T.

    This post was edited by WiscHawk on 3/2/2013 at 6:59 PM

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