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Iowa reviewing Ferentz hiring future son-in-law to his staff

  • Was surfing around Yahoo sports and stumbled upon this article. It appears Tyler Barnes has been engaged to Ferentz's daughter. Barta had no idea of this.

    I really don't see any red flag here, but some may find it a big deal, especially if rules were broken. I don't believe Ferentz would break any rules, but the issue is being investigated.

    Here's the link:

    http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-dr-saturday/iowa-reviewing-kirk-ferentz-hiring-future-son-law-181554582--ncaaf.html

    Thoughts?

    u2Hawk

  • Slow day in sports I guess. Nepotism goes on at every college. Look at the Oklahoma Sooners (Stoops). Brother hires brother. Didn't Steve Alford hire his dad on as a coach? How about in wrestling. The Brands brothers coaching together. Nepotism goes on at every level. I go to DePaul university and the AD and the girls softball coach are related (cousins I believe). Just seems like there isn't much to report on right now in CFB.

    You are right U2, if rules were broken then I see a problem, but I think this is a non issue here shrug

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    ChicagoHawk

  • ChicagoHawk said...

    Slow day in sports I guess. Nepotism goes on at every college. Look at the Oklahoma Sooners (Stoops). Brother hires brother. Didn't Steve Alford hire his dad on as a coach? How about in wrestling. The Brands brothers coaching together. Nepotism goes on at every level. I go to DePaul university and the AD and the girls softball coach are related (cousins I believe). Just seems like there isn't much to report on right now in CFB.

    You are right U2, if rules were broken then I see a problem, but I think this is a non issue here shrug

    Yes those people hired relatives but they went thru the proper protocol to do so. In this case, Ferentz hired him and did not go thru the proper procedures to hire him. No one in the AD or at UI knew he was dating and eventually engaged to his daughter until the CR Gazette asked about it.

    FG80

  • I don't know what the protocol is for this situation. The fiancé isn't family yet, so it may not be the same as when Kirk hired his son.

    Does anyone know the rules and/or protocol for this type of hiring or what Kirk may have overlooked in the rule book?

    u2Hawk

  • I am not familiar with the protocol either I guess.

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    ChicagoHawk

  • i think it is certain that rules were broken--at some point. the violation might prove inconsequential--tho real. barnes' appointment in the fb program became a must report conflict of interest at whatever point in time he developed a special relationship with kf's daughter. if he came in as her boyfriend, it needed to be reported then. if the relationship came up after his hiring, it needed to be reported later--at least at the point of engagement. it wasn't reported. rules were broken. issue sanctions. next man in.

    kf says he didn't see any reason to disclose the special relationship. oh, maybe, but that's pretty naive. i imagine he just thought it was nobody's business. that used to be an acceptable view, but not any longer. it appears kf doesn't keep up on administrative standards any more than he keeps up on offensive strategies. still he should've known better. it isn't like they gave him a pass when hiring his son. at least the ui waved its administrative hands around on that one. i feel sorry for young barnes. i wouldn't expect him to know the rules.

    silverhawk

  • One glaring fact that article didn't really discuss beyond a brief mention is that Barnes didn't get engaged to Ferentz's daughter until six months after he was hired. I have no inside info on this, and don't know anything about Barnes other than what he tweets from time to time. But who knows how serious their relationship was when Barnes was actually hired? It's possible that an eventual engagement was inevitable, but it's also possible that the relationship wasn't anywhere near serious yet.

    Recruiting Analyst for Voice of the Hawkeyes. Email: tworly@yahoo.com; Twitter: @ToddWorly247

    Todd Worly

  • Seems like a non-story turned into a story, which is business as usual these days.

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    PerkAslut

  • The article on espn has more info. He had worked for the athletic dept. for several years during grad school before being hired by KF. Also they were not engaged when he was hired - as Todd mentioned. It appears he is qualified, but KF should have reported that they got engaged to ensure this minor story didn't became what it is.

    jpgillman

  • What they should be writing a story about is how I didn't get hired when I applied for the OC position, even sent in my game film from the 360, bunch a crap really, considering I am the best head coach in the business and trying to move to OC. But whatever

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  • jpgillman said...

    The article on espn has more info. He had worked for the athletic dept. for several years during grad school before being hired by KF. Also they were not engaged when he was hired - as Todd mentioned. It appears he is qualified, but KF should have reported that they got engaged to ensure this minor story didn't became what it is.

    yeah, but is engagement an official thing? Heck, even marriage is not a sure thing. =(
    Like KF said, a nonissue. Can report it after the wedding.

    Yup, slow day in sports. Hey, how about the women's team. Let's go make some noise. Beat the stinking Huskers. It's just looks funny with Neb having a wbb program and OSU is seeded 9th?

    ThaiHawk

  • ThaiHawk said...

    yeah, but is engagement an official thing? Heck, even marriage is not a sure thing. =( Like KF said, a nonissue. Can report it after the wedding.

    Yup, slow day in sports. Hey, how about the women's team. Let's go make some noise. Beat the stinking Huskers. It's just looks funny with Neb having a wbb program and OSU is seeded 9th?

    well, actully you can't report it after the wedding and still comply. as i said back a ways, you can't report a relationship that doesn't exist--so if none existed when barnes was hired, no report was required--at that point. the engagement sure constituted a special relationship and needed to be reported. now, you can agree with kf that this is all stupid and should be left alone. the athletic dept cant pick/choose the rules it will follow based on the coach's sense of what is worth paying attention to. that is, of course, the point. heck, the hire would have held up even after reporting the engagement. coach was just too stubborn to see the easy way thru this. and that's the second point. stubbornness and willful blindness don't solve problems--or gain enuf first downs.

    silverhawk

  • Six months after he was hired, they were engaged.

    That's moving very fast in their relationship to an engagement if they weren't dating or engaged before.

    One would infer Kirk did nothing wrong. He's always been good at following the rules.

    This post was edited by u2Hawk on 3/7/2013 at 8:45 PM

    u2Hawk

  • Todd Worly said...

    One glaring fact that article didn't really discuss beyond a brief mention is that Barnes didn't get engaged to Ferentz's daughter until six months after he was hired. I have no inside info on this, and don't know anything about Barnes other than what he tweets from time to time. But who knows how serious their relationship was when Barnes was actually hired? It's possible that an eventual engagement was inevitable, but it's also possible that the relationship wasn't anywhere near serious yet.

    I am going to guess if they got engaged six months after he was hired, he was probably dating her when he was hired. But it appears UI expected that he should have reported the relationship, at least when they got engaged. But who knows.

    FG80

  • silverhawk said...

    well, actully you can't report it after the wedding and still comply. as i said back a ways, you can't report a relationship that doesn't exist--so if none existed when barnes was hired, no report was required--at that point. the engagement sure constituted a special relationship and needed to be reported. now, you can agree with kf that this is all stupid and should be left alone. the athletic dept cant pick/choose the rules it will follow based on the coach's sense of what is worth paying attention to. that is, of course, the point. heck, the hire would have held up even after reporting the engagement. coach was just too stubborn to see the easy way thru this. and that's the second point. stubbornness and willful blindness don't solve problems--or gain enuf first downs.

    The ESPN story said they were dating when he was hired. AFTER they were engaged, Ferentz asked for a waiver to extend Barnes' temporary employment for an additional year, through Jan. 16, 2014. A department memo said Ferentz and Barta had decided not to conduct a search for the job for the time being. AFTER they were engaged, Barnes started receiving health and dental insurance, and his pay went up 19 percent for his second year to $38,000. Curtis told the newspaper that she did not know Barnes' relationship to Ferentz when she sought the waiver. Ferentz said that he saw no reason to inform Barta or other officials about Barnes' engagement to his daughter.

    I think the story is Ferentz didn't think it was necessary or important to let anyone know he was asking for a waiver not to properly search for a candidate so he could retain his daughter's future husband and also gave him a raise and benefits. Probably wouldn't have been much of an issue if he had just been upfront about it and handled it the same way as when BF was hired.

    FG80

  • u2Hawk said...

    Six months after he was hired, they were engaged.

    That's moving very fast in their relationship to an engagement if they weren't dating or engaged before.

    One would infer Kirk did nothing wrong. He's always been good at following the rules.

    A lot of relationships take at least a year before they get engaged, but sometimes it happens much quicker. It's also possible that Barnes was just friends with Ferentz's daughter at the time he joined Iowa's staff, and then something developed later. I really don't know either way.

    Recruiting Analyst for Voice of the Hawkeyes. Email: tworly@yahoo.com; Twitter: @ToddWorly247

    Todd Worly

  • FG80 said...

    I am going to guess if they got engaged six months after he was hired, he was probably dating her when he was hired. But it appears UI expected that he should have reported the relationship, at least when they got engaged. But who knows.

    It's definitely possible that they were dating beforehand, but there are some relationships that move much quicker. Also, it's possible that they were just friends when he was originally hired, and it then developed into something more. I really don't know either way.

    I do think Ferentz should have disclosed the fact that they were engaged once he found out, but the fact that they weren't engaged when Ferentz hired Barnes makes Ferentz's approach not as troubling, IMO.

    Recruiting Analyst for Voice of the Hawkeyes. Email: tworly@yahoo.com; Twitter: @ToddWorly247

    Todd Worly

  • FG80 said...

    The ESPN story said they were dating when he was hired. AFTER they were engaged, Ferentz asked for a waiver to extend Barnes' temporary employment for an additional year, through Jan. 16, 2014. A department memo said Ferentz and Barta had decided not to conduct a search for the job for the time being. AFTER they were engaged, Barnes started receiving health and dental insurance, and his pay went up 19 percent for his second year to $38,000. Curtis told the newspaper that she did not know Barnes' relationship to Ferentz when she sought the waiver. Ferentz said that he saw no reason to inform Barta or other officials about Barnes' engagement to his daughter.

    I think the story is Ferentz didn't think it was necessary or important to let anyone know he was asking for a waiver not to properly search for a candidate so he could retain his daughter's future husband and also gave him a raise and benefits. Probably wouldn't have been much of an issue if he had just been upfront about it and handled it the same way as when BF was hired.

    I agree with the issue being what you described. Unfortunately, the initial articles about this story make that very difficult to decipher.

    Recruiting Analyst for Voice of the Hawkeyes. Email: tworly@yahoo.com; Twitter: @ToddWorly247

    Todd Worly