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OhioHawk07 said...
Just add Florida to the list with California and everything west of the Rockies. I understand the principle, but I also understand talent. The move is flat out dumb. Hopefully the coaches cruise doesn't disembark from F-L-A....just another land of talent that Iowa forgot.
And hey I understand its not fun getting told, "no thanks", but if recruiting was easy, nobody would be 4-8.
Iowa currently has 42 offers out. 3 are going elsewhere, and we landed the 2 easiest in state. That leaves 37 offers, and nearly half are gonna land in the "no thanks" category. So, that leaves what, 20 viable offers? LSU just had 300+ kids at their Junior Day...Miss St just handed out 14 offers over the weekend to up their total to something like 55...and what? Its time for a cruise? Not enough time and money for recruiting Florida, but there's time for a cruise? 4 wins, 8 losses. Cruise. 4 wins, 8 losses. Cruise. No Florida recruiting. Cruise. 4 wins, 8 losses. Cruise.
, I'm stuck.
I love Ohio's talent, particularly this year, but even I understand that compared to Florida's kids, Ohio's are less explosive, less sudden, and slower. But then again, any and all talent will wait. Have a nice time on that cruise.
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hillboy20 said...
Since 2002 Iowa has had 20 commits from Florida: Edmond Miles, Marcus Paschal, Larry Thomas, Chris Brevi, Ettore Ewen, Damian Sims, Kalvin Bailey, Vernon Jackson, Troy Johnson, Lance Tillison, Jevon Pugh, David Blackwell, Jeff Brinson, Jack Swanson, Joshua Brown, De'Andre Johnson, Torrey Campbell, Jake Rudock, Greg Mabin, and Daumantas Venckus. These guys have contributed so much to the program that if the Hawks stop recruiting the sunshine state they will never win another game. I would take any of these guys over the 4 stars from the Midwest maybe Texas too.
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lumuhawk said...
Ummm....so many of the players you listed never played a down for Iowa, transferred or never cracked the two deep.
The only players you listed that were successful for Iowa were Miles, Paschal, Sims, Tillison (although barely) and De'Andre Johnson. The rest -- to early to tell.
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cmelgin said...
Smart move in my opinion, I feel like they could spend that Florida effort on new east coast states that the new coaches have connections to and more time in Texas to try and open it back up. Recruits like playing in front of their friends and family and we don't play any games in Florida and most parents don't have the money to travel to games so far away. With the addition of Rutgers and Maryland to the conference I think it really opens up that area to recruit because we will be playing games around there.
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hillboy20 said...
Since 2002 Iowa has had 20 commits from Florida: Edmond Miles, Marcus Paschal, Larry Thomas, Chris Brevi, Ettore Ewen, Damian Sims, Kalvin Bailey, Vernon Jackson, Troy Johnson, Lance Tillison, Jevon Pugh, David Blackwell, Jeff Brinson, Jack Swanson, Joshua Brown, De'Andre Johnson, Torrey Campbell, Jake Rudock, Greg Mabin, and Daumantas Venckus. These guys have contributed so much to the program that if the Hawks stop recruiting the sunshine state they will never win another game. I would take any of these guys over the 4 stars from the Midwest maybe Texas too.
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cmelgin said...
Smart move in my opinion, I feel like they could spend that Florida effort on new east coast states that the new coaches have connections to and more time in Texas to try and open it back up. Recruits like playing in front of their friends and family and we don't play any games in Florida and most parents don't have the money to travel to games so far away. With the addition of Rutgers and Maryland to the conference I think it really opens up that area to recruit because we will be playing games around there.
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cmelgin said...
You could get playmakers from anywhere and there are busts from everywhere too. No point in bringing up past success stories because that is just the past. If we could get those players to play for iowa now then it would be relavent. Greenway was successful, should we start putting more effort into South Dakota? I just think it is wiser to put more effort into other places rather than Florida. Recently it's been kind of a lost cause and we have no inns down there anymore really. We should use the connections we have and try to exploit them.
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TheJungles said...
You are correct, iowa doesnt have any coaches with connections to florida (and california). To me, that is part of the problem. With the coaching overhaul , and recruiting being so important, KF should identify a coach or two with connects in football rich states that are also good coaches...hopefully Reid will be able to hit Virginia and surrounding areas hard. Automatically dismissing Florida players just doesnt make sense to me.
As i have said in the past, of course the staff shouldnt concentrate all of their efforts in cali and florida...and they shouldnt go after high 4 star and 5 star players, but the staff also shouldnt throw their hands up in defeat without even trying. They should continue to put the majority of the efforts in nearby areas, especially highly ranked recruits, but also put some resources into florida and cali.
Only 1 b1g team spent less money on recruiting in 2011 & 2012 than iowa...why?? With as much money as the program brings in, shouldnt they at least be in the upper half of the b1g on money spent on recruiting? Throwing money into recruiting wont solve all the problems, but it would help. Inferior programs to iowa have gone into florida and cali and brought in recruits. Ignoring talented players is just not wise in my opinion.
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TheJungles said...
You are correct, iowa doesnt have any coaches with connections to florida (and california). To me, that is part of the problem. With the coaching overhaul , and recruiting being so important, KF should identify a coach or two with connects in football rich states that are also good coaches...hopefully Reid will be able to hit Virginia and surrounding areas hard. Automatically dismissing Florida players just doesnt make sense to me.
As i have said in the past, of course the staff shouldnt concentrate all of their efforts in cali and florida...and they shouldnt go after high 4 star and 5 star players, but the staff also shouldnt throw their hands up in defeat without even trying. They should continue to put the majority of the efforts in nearby areas, especially highly ranked recruits, but also put some resources into florida and cali.
Only 1 b1g team spent less money on recruiting in 2011 & 2012 than iowa...why?? With as much money as the program brings in, shouldnt they at least be in the upper half of the b1g on money spent on recruiting? Throwing money into recruiting wont solve all the problems, but it would help. Inferior programs to iowa have gone into florida and cali and brought in recruits. Ignoring talented players is just not wise in my opinion.
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