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I am hearing rumblings (typically where there is smoke there is fire) That Illinois coach is GONE/FIRED.
so here is what I ask
1. Have you heard anything?
2. Are there any recruits that may jump ship if he does?
3. If they would how many had interest in Iowa?
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Haven't heard anything about this myself. IMO, unless he did something completely unprofessional behind the scenes, I think that'd be very unfair. He took over a broken program, and deserves at least two or three years to prove what he can do.
If it does happen, I would assume virtually all of their recruits would at least consider going elsewhere. Of course, the timing is tough for those kids, as a lot of other schools that they might be interested in are already full, or at least close to being full. As for whether or not they actually flip to another school, it'd probably depend on who the new coach is, how they feel they fit in that new coach's system, which other schools pursue them, etc.
If that does happen, I would expect guys like Darius Mosely, Reggie Spearman (who's already considering Iowa) and possibly Merrick Jackson to have some interest in Iowa. It's possible that the Hawkeyes would try to get their foot in the door with some of the other commits as well, but there wasn't serious mutual interest before any of those guys committed to Illinois.
Ok thank you sir
This brings up the question of poetic justice. Last fall, when PSU was hammered and their athletes declared free pickings, Illinois treated it like an open season and posted recruiters at PSU to try and find some low hanging fruit. They got little results, other than bad pr with all the rest of the league coaches. Do you think 1)This might bear on Beckman's job security in Champaign, and 2)if he goes, do you think the rest of the Big Ten teams would give a little more effort to stripping Illinois recruits from Illinois?
Ugh, just once I want to come here with a "Super Todd Question".
Personally, I never understood the heat Illinois took for pursuing Penn State players. They didn't break any rules by doing so. Penn State made its own bed in that situation, and was therefore forced to deal with the consequences.
If that has any bearing on Beckman's job security, something is wrong administratively at Illinois.
As for other B1G teams trying to flip any Illini commits if there's a coaching change, I think that would happen at any place where there's a coaching change, so I don't see any differences with Illinois should that happen.
Yeah here I am with a blank brain and no questions to ask.
I can't see Beckman being gone after just one year. Yeah, it's been a pretty rotten year, but even Turner Gill got two years at Kansas. Two years is the minimum, unless there's something major going on behind the scenes.
In regards to Beckman taking heat from the administration over how he handled the PSU stuff--the AD easily could have told Beckman in advance how to handle the situation. He could have told Beckman not to recruit PSU players. He wasn't proactive on the issue, so holding Beckman accountable for that seems a little much.
Completely agree with you on both points.
Dan Bernstein @dan_bernstein
My #Illinois source can't yet confirm Beckman firing rumors, but does say there's a "good chance" it happens.
Do you know who this is Todd? I didnt think he would get fired already either but John Smith is gone at Arkansas. And i had heard the kids do not like Beckman. But it is all hearsay but in the sports world it is not very often when someone says something like this that it doesnt actually happen
Don't know much about Bernstein, other than that he's based in Chicago.
It certainly could be true - I really don't know.
John L. Smith was a different situation, since his hiring was done so late in the process and he was really just a one year stop gap as an interim coach. Also, the Arkansas program entered the season in the top 5, and ended up 4-8. Illinois was already struggling before Beckman arrived.
If Illinois does fire Beckman after one year, there must be something going on behind closed doors, or else the administrative leadership is lacking there. Both are certainly possible.
For recruiting reasons and the fact I hate them I hope it happens
I used to hate Illinois, back when Iowa played against them in football.
I've seen it a few places that supporters of the Illini program hate Beckman and that he is a big time sleazeball. They are just using his crappy season as an excuse to run him because nobody likes dealing with him in the athletic department and booster circuit. Just what I've seen a couple different places.
Are we ever going to play them again?
Not at all arguing or disagreeing with what you heard, but if that's true, isn't that the AD's fault? How could the AD hire a guy that immediately rubs so many people the wrong way? If Beckman goes, I would think the AD should follow him out the door.
My understanding is that Illinois comes back on Iowa's schedule in 2015. That being said, with the additions of Maryland and Rutgers, that may be subject to change.
Seven years w/o playing a conference opponent, yet a border state, that doesn't even happen in the SEC.
And we needed Illinois on our schedule the past 2 seasons!
I agree with you. I really don't like the fact that you can go so long without playing a conference opponent.
So, you're saying the AD should be directly tied to the hiring/success of their coaches....I concur....and it explains a lot about the current attitude emanating from the AD's office in Iowa City.
If Wisconsin stays in the opposite division, and the conference slate does not expand to 9 games, you can kiss our historic rivalry with the Badgers goodbye.
That's one of the very unfortunate side effects of the current and future landscape in college athletics, and it's very sad. One of the great things about college athletics, especially football, is the tradition, and these types of thing can have a significant negative impact on that.
I'm with you on this one Misty.
My question is why do these adults, and I assume they are adults, refer to Mr. Worley as a diety, sire and other superlatives as if he really has all the answers? So far I'm not convinced that he is anything but human and a pretty good guy.
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