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Iowa got their arses handed to them in Ann Arbor today.
When losing 42-10 with no chance to win, why do you think Ferentz chooses to keep playing Vandenberg?
To me it makes sense to get some other guys on the bench to play mop-up duty and get some experience when it's a blow-out.
This is no disrespect to Vandenberg because he did play better today than in previous weeks.
Is the decision to not play Rudock because he's that much worse than Vandenberg?
or... Is Ferentz trying to avoid criticism and controversy if Rudock were to come in and actually play better?
KF has lost it. Thank goodness Iowa BB is here.
I don't see this as a plausible scenario. Ferentz will play who he feels gives Iowa the best chance to win. He couldn't care less about media scrutiny.
I also think that with the lack of a consistent running game and the OL issues, putting Rudock out there might only hurt his confidence rather then boost it.
This answer is really the only reasonable one I've heard that makes sense to me.
I agree with this as well. It could evolve into a Jake Christensen scenario where he had all the talent in the world but completely lost confidence in himself and his teammates.
But when that chance to win is gone (getting blown out in the 4th) most college coaches will get the backup some reps. Its a chance for him to play on the road and get that experience. The one and only reason KF doesnt play Rudock in this situation is because he is scared to death that Rudock might look good. FACT. He doesnt want the fans, the team, the media to start the conversation that there might be a competition. Its is an ass backwards way to run a team. He is protecting JVB because hes a nice kid, a great student, a good story, a 5th yr senior. If Iowa Football was a company he would be fired for playing favorites. Im sick of "good stories". JVB played as good as he can play today. At one point in the 4th quarter the announcer said JVB completed his first pass of the day to a wr. Shocking. Takes 3 quarters to get the ball to a wideout.
I agree that JVB should start against Nebraska. He is our best qb. When it gets outta hand(which it will) you get the backups some reps. KF is getting paid just under 1 million dollars per win this year. He needs to make decisions that are best for the program. We had 3 academic all-americans this year. JVB, Morris, Bigach. All 3 have two things in common: smart, and have no business starting in the B1G. KF sticks by these guys cause its a "good story". We need guys with Thug Life tattoos, not guys that are looking at Med School.
Our backup Qb has two years of eligibility left after this year....if he does not burn the red shirt this season. How much difference will it make in his play next year if he get 10 or 20 plays at the end of a lost season??? The only reason to put Rudock or Sokol in at this point in time is to please a bunch of arm chair QB's and KF does not give a damn about their opinions. He is trying to do what he can to set up the Iowa team for a better season the next two years. This season is lost. Play it out, be patient, and hope for better times starting next year.
+1 for KFS* by me.
This post was edited by LaoHawk 20 months ago
Fish if he didnt care about the media critics why did he cancel his show for the rest of the year? But I have no clue why he is not giving JR time unless he knows he is not the guy. Even if that is true I still dont know why he is not playing him. Anyway I am keeping all my thoughts to myself as I usually say things I dont mean after losses. GO HAWKS
This. Plus your insiders will tell you they are planning on Sokol next year. Playing Rudock now could create another controversy if Rudock looked good, then Sokol would start next year and struggle. Fans would again question why Rudock wasn't playing.
When you are getting blown out and you can't win the game, the starter no longer is giving you a chance to win.
Even if Sokol is the starter next year, he may get injured. It never hurts to get snaps for any player who may be in a position to be thrown to the wolves at a moment's notice. Giving Rudock snaps on the road, especially in the Big House, would have been valuable.
For those of you who don't believe Ferentz isn't playing Rudock to prevent a controversy, re-examine his past actions. He dislikes the media, he does not like having to do a call in show, we all know his stubbornness...he absolutely did not want to play Stanzi over JC. He is going to stick with Vandenberg because he is not going to open himself up to the chance that Rudock might do well and having to endure the questioning from the media and fans that he loathes.
Rudock is not a red shirt this year. He used it last year.
I guess I don't know about Sokol, but since he's a transfer, I'm assuming that he's not using his red shirt this year either.
Sokol is redshirting this year.
Yes Sokol had 3 years to play 2.
You and I are in total disagreement here.
Obviously you already know who will be the starting QB for the 2013 Iowa Hawkeyes, congrats. Some of us have no idea who will start. Us not in the know will probably have to wait and see how spring practices go. Then we will have to see how fall practices go. Then a starter will be named.
How much difference will 10-20 snaps make? It cant hurt imo. We all remember when Stanzi got hurt against NW and JVB was thrown into a game having never taken a snap. I believe his first pass was a pick 6. He finished the game out taking pry 30 snaps and started the next week at The Shoe. Looked like a totally different QB with those 30 snaps. Im not saying give Rudock the keys, but atleast let him get his learner's permit. There is nothing to lose, and you might actually have something to gain.
With that said, in 2012 the 4-8 Iowa Hawkeyes with go the entire season with an offense that ranks in 100's, with a qb who's rating ranks in the 100's, having never played a different QB. Not one single snap.
No way KF plays Rudock in a blow out loss to Nebraska. But its not because he doesnt want JVB to hear the cheers when benched on senior day. Because as you stated, KF doesnt care what 70k "arm chair QBs" think.
This post has been edited 3 times, most recently by KFSuperStar 20 months ago
CAn't forget about Beathard either, I heard he has impressed as well.
I'm not sure as I admit I stopped watching the game after half time, saved myself two hours of pain during my weekend, but why is it just the quarterback being talked about?
Again I don't know who of the backups got in during the second half but I'm assuming that if they had Vandenberg in the whole time they probably had the rest of the 1st team in. So why aren't we up in arms that the 1st string O-line was still playing? Why not the wideouts? Are the linebackers not allowed to get criticized?
Don't get me wrong I would like to see... well I'd like to hear that the backups got playing time while in a blowout, but it just amazes me that it's always the quarterback that gets mentioned and nobody else.
They have injuries on the line and they have been moving players in and out to get the best fit. So even though they just are not that great it hasn't been from a lack of trying. I mean our best 2 guys are out for the year.
Blowouts, whether you're the blower or blowee, are excellent times to get other players some game experience, so I'm disappointed we didn't see another QB today, or some of the young D-line players as well.
Would I have played Rudock in the 4th if I were in KF's shoes? Yes, but I absolutely do not believe that KF elects not to because he's afraid said player would actually play well, and therefore create some kind of controversy. Everybody is entitled to his/her opinion, but that's simply a theory I don't buy. He's certainly not perfect, nor above criticism, but I honestly don't believe he thinks along those lines.
Even if I don't always agree with him, I do believe KF makes decisions he genuinely feels are right for the program. Whether we label it stubborness or being consistent in his approach, Ferentz has a certain philosophy he subscribes to and believes strongly in the importance of sticking to it. Personally, I would love to see him be a little more flexible, and think outside the box more often, but it's just not in his make-up.
Good post here. Collin Sleeper, Travis Perry, and Darian Cooper were all playing at the end over the "starters" by the way.
Great post. Summed up my thoughts perfectly.
Which is why he made a good position coach. He does not possess the qualities a head coach needs to be successful at the BCS level.
In a blowout with no chance to win, one would think the coaching staff would give the bench some playing time. Rotate in other O-linemen and d-linemen, receivers, and give your backup QB some reps.
Did anyone notice how Iowa appeared to move the ball a bit better in the 4th quarter. I would think Michigan had some of their bench out playing mop-up. UM backup QB was playing the whole game (with Denard rotating in) because of Denard's injury. This experience for their backup QB will benefit VERY well.
Also read posts about the call in show being cancelled. That makes sense. Ferentz has exhausted the fact this team doesn't execute every freakin week. There's really no reason for Ferentz to put himself through all that when he really can't come out and say that this team lacks talent or they flat out suck. Better off canceling the show.
After observing today's game, Iowa flat out was manhandled by UM in speed and overall talent. Iowa appeared a step slower and weaker at most positions.
Many of us have blamed the coaching all year, but the greatest coach in the world wouldn't have a winning season with Iowa's current talent. The key to turning this debacle around will be to recruit better players and give some of the future starters some playing time in games that are blowouts like today. It would have been a great opportunity.
This post was edited by u2Hawk 20 months ago
Well he has had a lot of success at the BCS level. A national coy several big ten coy 3 top 8 s in a row, a BCS win and another BCS game. He can coach, but I think he needs to hire a good oc and dc and not have anything to do with them let them do their jobs and he just needs to coach, his style is outdated and he needs people to make it current
Sorry typed on phone it should have said bcs not BAD
This post was edited by HawkiBrad55 20 months ago
Why is it that everyone automatically assumes Rudock will be the No. 1 QB next season?
Two of the three QBs who will be in Iowa City next fall are redshirting this year.
Could it be that Rudock is actually No. 3 on the depth chart and the gap between Nos. 1 & 3 is significant?
Nobody on this board knows who will start next year at any position outside of LT and K. We will actually have 4 scholarship QBs in IC next fall. Its pretty fair to say that Rudock will be in the mix at QB tho whether its starter, 2nd, 3rd, or 4th string. I cant speak for others but what Im saying is even if Rudock is 2nd string next year it would be nice to get him some snaps in blowouts this year. With concussion and helmet rules you never know. As Im typing Im flipping thru the channels and ISU is playing a freshmen QB and his first 2 drives were touchdowns. Hes the 3rd qb Rhoads has played this year.
Is Rudock gonna start next year? Idk. I do know that it is nice to have a qb or a backup qb with some experience. I dont know if i have explained this well enough, but Ive never seen Titanic so I cant make an analogy
This post was edited by KFSuperStar 20 months ago
A lot? 14 years at Iowa, five seasons of more than 8 wins. When you schedule 3 gimmes and ISU, you only need to go .500 in the B1G to reach 8 wins if you beat ISU. In conference (the real barometer, three seasons of more than 5 wins. THREE. If they lose to Nebraska, his 14 year average is 7.1 wins and 5.3 losses. KOK saved the 2010 season for him by pushing him hard to start Stanzi.
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