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Theeeee Iowa Hawkeyes already have 2 post season wins, have gotten some nice publicity on ESPN, (especially Dev)
and have sold out CHA twice. Impressive!
Boy Wonder's illustrious Lobo squad (predicted by many and the all knowing Charles Barkley) to be a
likely Final Four team were bounced by Harvard. LOL hilarious.
The Big Ten goes 6-1 and proves my point that Iowa SHOULD have been in the Big Dance. Best part of Big Ten going
6-1 though is that the 1 is Bozo Ryan's Badgers getting bounced out by and SEC school. LOL hilarious.
And the coup de gras has to be Florida Gulf Coast (where?) beating Georgetown, who according to MGM Sportsbook was one of the 4 Top favored seeds by VEGAS.
And more to come..............
'Texan by birth, Hawkeye by the Grace of God'
Iowa attendance blows away all other sites- about 8,000 more than #2, after the first round. With another sellout last night, the NIT figures may even be more impressive today. If Iowa can get that third game at HCA with a St. John's win, my guess is there will be yet another sellout at CHA. Sure hope the NCAA and NIT are paying attention when it comes to where to schedule their future games if they want a big gate receipt with a home town/state crowd.
Iowa fans will follow them anywhere, but the closer the better.
GO HAWKS!! See you in New York!!
Unless you actually filled out a bracket, which I suspect you did not, or you probably wouldn't be so happy over this upset.
Well, mr presumptuous is wrong, once again. Actually, I filled out 3 brackets.
Isn't it kind of the height of naivete, when young guns like Herk actually think they're going to get a lot of
games right in 'their bracket'.
Have you seen the numbers on that from Espin? lol
GO HAWKS.! I did pick the Hawks right in the NIT!
ps.......Come on, Herk........you didn't see that Florida Gold(sic) coast win over the Hoyas? That's easy pickins
This post was edited by Skyhawk52 13 months ago
Iowa didn't deserve to be on the Tournament based on the criteria. In terms of how good they are, absolutely, but the weak scheduling in the non conference cost them a bid.
Well, fish, guess we can Agree to
Haaa...I guess it is more my fault for having faith in GTwn to make the final 8... not sure what I was thinking giving them that much credit
Of course. But as long as RPI and non conference SOS were large factors in tournament selection, Iowa wasn't getting in. An RPI of 78 and a non conference SOS in the 300's spelled Iowa's doom in the eyes of the selection committee. I think there's definitely an argument to be made that the committee places too much emphasis on those two numbers, and I would agree, but given the criteria in place presently, Iowa didn't deserve to make it. I'll reiterate, though, that I do think they are one of the top 68 teams in the nation easily and should have been in were it based more on the eye test etc. Unfortunately, though, its not.
I agree with what Fish is saying here. The good news as far as Iowa is concerned is that these extra games and practices will only make this squad more battle-tested heading into next year. And seeing their conference peers have success in the Big Dance ought to motivate the coaches and players that much more, because they know what they'll be capable of doing next year.
That's great, Todd, but I don't agree with Fish and many other also do not.
The BigTen is now 11-1 in post season play. What is the Mountain Waste ?
And Ohio State looks to have a winnable game tomorrow.
You have every right to disagree, and these discussions are what this board is for.
Let's simplify this discussion, shall we? The lowest rated RPI team to make the NCAA Tournament was Southern California at 67. So were Iowa invited to the tournament, they would have been easily the lowest rated team by RPI to make the Tourney. Couple that with a non-conference SOS of over 300, and I'm not sure how the argument can be made that Iowa should have been in as long as those two numbers are major factors in the Selection Committee's decision. I think that in terms of how good they are, Iowa deserved to be in, but based on the criteria currently in place, no way.
You keep bringing up the B1G's post season record, but that has absolutely nothing to do with the current discussion. No one has doubted all year that the Big Ten is the best conference. But that has nothing to do with Iowa's RPI and non conference SOS, which is what sent them to the NIT.
Also, let's take a closet look at the performance of B1G teams in the post season. I'm going to disregard any tournament other than the NCAA and NIT because, quite frankly, they don't matter. So in the 2 post-season tournaments that are actually worthwhile, the Big Ten is 9-1. Pretty impressive right? Well...not really. The only team to beat a team that wasn't a lesser seed is (11) Minnesota over (6) UCLA. Outside of that one game, every B1G win in the NIT and NCAA has been chalk. Not really that impressive at all when you take into consideration that Indiana, Ohio State, Michigan State, Michigan, and Iowa were top 4 seeds in their respective tournaments and therefore have only played relatively weak teams thus far.
The vast majority of media types and even Iowa fans didn't see Iowa getting selected this year. Why is that? Because Iowa didn't have impressive numbers in the areas that are considered by the Selection Committee. It really is as simple as that. Having a beef with the use of non con SOS and RPI as major factors makes sense, having a beef with the committee's decision given what factors are in place, though, does not.
This post was edited by Hawkifish 13 months ago
Not sure March Madness is that great when the wrestling team is getting absolutely throttled.
Great post all around, but this part really sums it up. I think there are very legitimate arguments to be made about the current system in place. But the selection committee has to follow that system, and given that system, I think they made the right call regarding Iowa.
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