In partnership with CBSSports.com
The place for inside information on the Iowa Hawkeyes
The place to discuss general topics outside of Iowa
You have no favorite boards.
The most viewed topics.
The most replied to topics.
The most up-voted topics.
The most down-voted topics.
The most up-voted posters.
The most down-voted posters.
The most followed posters.
After first turnover iowa driving ball. Stupid pass play call on 3rd down to sidelines
Then poor clock management when driving to score after 2nd turnover
Got conservative, especially in 4th quarter. Even tv announcers called out conservative crap
Then once again, no 2-minute offense game plan and poor clock management.
Blame some on lack of execution but this team put up a good fight and had a chance, only to lose mainly due to crap coaching.
Agree with all of your points except the first.
I suspect some of the problems with this year are legacy of the coaching changeover from a year ago. KOK never was a good clock manager and Greg Davis has not solved that problem yet. Our QB has looked down his receivers for two years. That was not going to change, no matter who the coaches were. Let's hope that this was the bottom of the ebb as Iowa reorients its coaching staff. Better coaching and some maturity in the returning players might make the coming year enough better to remove the taste left by this season. If not, then we have a major problem to address.
Don't let the door hit ya on the butt on the way out of IC, Greg
I agree with every one of his points....especially the first
Here we go again
I don't know why, but ever since the game @ Pittsburgh (I believe it was Jake C's last start? Perhaps not) Iowa's clock management has been the worst I have ever seen in the entire nation. High school teams manage the clock better than Iowa does, it is the most maddening thing at the end of halves for me.
I didn't see the game, but did read a couple of quick post-game clips. Any general thoughts? Any bright spots? I actually expected the score to be more lop-sided, so there must have been some decent play here and there.
The defense looked pretty good minus the 1st drive.
Iowa's o-line dominated the 1st half. Iowa got 2 turnovers in the 2nd quarter. After the 1st turnover, Iowa was driving and had 3rd and short after running all over Nebby. The play call was an impossible pass play down along the far sidelines. Then the drive fell apart after the play calling went away from what was working.
Iowa got a 2nd Nebby fumble. Vandenberg did make a mistake by taking too long to throw to a wide open receiver in which the defender was able to catch up and knock the pass away. Had the pass been thrown sooner, it was an easy 6.
After that, the typical lack of any clock management took affect and the drive was pissed away at the end of the 1st half.
2nd half, even announcers were making comments about Iowa becoming conservative and questioned play calling and being conservative. Iowa actually had a chance at the end to win it, but once again the offense was in NO hurry with less than 3 minutes left. That was mixed with conservative play calling and a game losing 3 yard interception pass by Vandenberg.
Iowa had every chance to win this game. The defense showed up and played as well as they could be expected.
The offense played well enough to win but poor clock management, conservative play calling (at the wrong time) and in my opinion, a very dumb pass call that stalled a drive after the first turnover, lost the game.
IMO, this loss is 85% on Ferentz and Greg Davis, and 15% on execution. They played as well as they could have in cold, windy conditions.
Turnovers, weather, 2nd half Burkhead and a much improved Iowa D were the main factors.
Bright spot: The defense held a pretty solid NE defense to 1 TD.
Any other team in America, with any other Offensive Coordinator and I'm sorry, quarterback would have prevailed.
The Defense never allowed T Martinez to break off a big run, created several Turnovers, but the incredible ineptitude of the offense allowed NE somehow to win.
Completely WIPE the slate of the offense clean. Clean house. It should be re-built from the ground up. (Coaching)
You could bring in any of the playcallers from I.C. Regina, Solon, wherever. They couldn't do any worse.
With players like Weisman, CJ, KMM, Garmon, Scherf, Donnal, Bullock, Blythe, etc. there is some Hope.
'Texan by birth, Hawkeye by the Grace of God'
Thanks U2 and Sky.
Sounds like the defense played with emotion out there, which is nice to hear, though too little too late.
I completely know what you mean about the sideline pass. I'm assuming it was a fly pattern down the sideline, which is a play of which I've never been a big fan. Too little margin of error. First, the play requires a WR that has speed and understands leverage, and he has to run the route at least 4-5 yards from the sideline. Second, you have to have a QB with exceptional touch and accuracy. We have neither (at least consistently), which makes that play a very low yield gamble. It's not just Iowa, though, I see that play fail a lot on every level. To me, that's a better 2nd and short option if the defense gives you single coverage on the outside. It's a terrible 3rd and short call.
It may sound like I'm delerious, but I'm actually feeling somewhat optimistic about the next two years. The schedule is daunting, but if one of the QBs steps up, this could be a very competitive team. I feel very good about the OL, even though I'm still not completely sold on Scherff at LT. The LBs will be very experienced, but I'm tired of them, primarily Kirksey, being undersized. And, I'm excited to see what some of the young WRs bring to the table.
Perhaps most important, there is more athleticism and speed waiting in the wings than I can remember in recent memory. We need Doyle to live up to his reputation and develop some power and size in that front seven. If Doyle can build up some of the LBs, RBs and D-lineman, and the more athletic guys can settle in to positions, this team could take a big leap. And, of course, as has been intimated, we need our coaches to step up, become more creative, and show an ability to motivate, not just during the week, but in-game as well. The next two seasons may well be the most important we have seen in twenty years in terms of establishing which direction this program will take.
I think Iowa is a few years away from turning around. The d-line needs to rebuild still. The young d-linemen we do have are undersized and were manhandled most of the season.
The o-line will need to replace a few key starters and the returning linemen will only get better.
Hyde needs to be replaced.
House cleaning needs to happen at receiver position. We need more speed, better route running, and better hands.
Special teams looked pretty good in coverage.
QB is the big question.
I'm thinking Ferentz knew and realized the tank was half empty. My guess is we didn't see another QB because in Ferentz's view it really didn't matter considering how bad the receivers were most of the time. It doesn't make sense to break the spirits of a younger QB of the future.
The short passes were probably to make up for the lack of speed and ability to get open had they installed a bunch of plays where receivers constantly run down field and not get open.
Lots of good stuff here...thanks. Sounds like everyone agrees that the schedule will be tougher next year with OSU and WISC back on the slate. But, the good news is, to win or be competitive and receive recognition for having a good team, you need to beat the big dogs. I am fine with that. Bring em' on. Let us not get accused, again, of only winning because our schedule is cupcake...I get tired of that line. This day and age it is really very hard to win a football game against almost everybody. I firmly believe that the next few years of Iowa football will be fun to watch.
Outside of Ferentz, what other "key" starters are there to replace on the OL? (For your sake, I hope you don't include Tobin in your response)
At WR I think KMM is decent, and if he shows substantial improvement between now and next year he could be an elite guy. Otherwise I agree, the position is in desperate need of an injection of speed/talent. Has Fleming officially moved to defense? He could be that special guy. TE is typically a standard of excellence for Iowa, and imo is the position that must see dramatic improvement for the offense to run effectively.
RB....I will not address in fear of angering a certain deity.
As is always the case, QB will be the biggest factor in how far/fast this team can turn it around...unless they fire Davis and get a real QB coach in there, I don't see it happening.
On defense, I think Iowa will actually be better...the DL will be older/stronger, just need the two young studs (Johnson/Ekakitie) to step up sooner than is typically expected from RsFr. Davis is another guy who we're still waiting on to "show up"...he will probably be slotted to fill Bigach's spot as a starter. Cooper looks like he could be ready to explode, so Davis had better step it up. If the DL plays like our DL's from the past, that will make our small LBs that more effective. Hyde is a big loss, but the secondary will be fine.
This post was edited by Herkuleez 20 months ago
247Sports In partnership with CBS Sports