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I rarely go that route -- blaming the refs.
I'm blaming Fran for this one -- blowing a 19-point lead against, of all teams, Nebraska. Reminded me of our last NCAA game, when we lost a comfortable 17-point lead well into the second half back in 2006.
I was referring to the poster who started in about the officiating.
I made a comment about officiating, I was at the game it was god awful, I do believe it hurt the hawks, but it's not am excuse, the team didnt help themself out at all either. But unless you actually watched it you can't say that the officiating in that game was good
You did make it an excuse. You said what about the officiating, was that fran's fault?
Why is it every time Iowa loses, the officiating is always so bad?
Really I made that the only reason they lost? No I was figuring all the downers who want to run Fran out of town would say everything to do with the game was his fault. I acknowledged the team was at fault, although not helped out. Interesting you say I blame the refs everytime Iowa loses. Please go back and find any time I did that. Even this game I placed the blame on the team, I just said they were not helped out any either.
Please keep enlightening us with all that you know about everything. I really enjoyed during the football season when you were saying that everything good that has happened during Ferentz's tenure was in spite of him but everything bad was all just because of him. You are the definition of genius, clearly.
Buck and BBR, sorry you guys had to endure that second-half meltdown in person.
BBR sent me a few late play-by-plays and the end result via text. Could not say anything out loud as I was at a church function.
Have I calmed down today: somewhat. Am I still mad: oh yeah.
All we can do now is a win a few more and make a run in the BIG Tourney.
I posted this in the other thread but I suppose it fits here as well:
"NIT is just a possibility? Teams don't go from NCAA bubble to NIT bubble with one loss. Sorry if that disrupts your riot, but its true. This is an NIT team and would be an NCAA team if they could close out games, something that comes with experience. Teams that rely on a lot of underclassmen will struggle down the stretch of games. Next year, when our boys are a year stronger and smarter, you'll see some of the close games tip in the Hawkeyes' favor, leading to an NCAA tournament berth.
All along people were saying this was a borderline NCAA team with the odds being an NIT bid. Melting down over a team meeting expectations doesn't make much sense to me. Just my opinion."
And please don't take this to mean that I'm not freaking livid about yesterday's game and the other close losses that should've been wins. I'm mad about those games, just not ready in any way to call for Fran's head like some here. The basketball team has shown significant improvement each year under Fran and I can guarantee you the same will be true next year.
EDIT: Sorry if this post comes across as harsh, it's not meant that way.
This post was edited by Hawkifish 17 months ago
Please go back and tell me where I said you blame the refs everytime we lose.
If you follow this board at all, you will see plenty of whining about the officials when we lose. How come no one mentions the calls that go for Iowa or calls that were missed on Iowa?
I have not posted a great deal on this board. But I am sure you can point me to the posts where I sai everythihg good during Ferentz's tenure was in spite of him and everything bad was because of him.
I guarantee you this is not unique to this board or the Iowa fanbase. It's the nature of the beast when it comes to sports.
The outstanding years were not because of KF but in spite of him. People complained about KOK all the time. He was not the problem. But everyone was so enarmored with KF because of 2002 they couldn't see past their nose. KOK could have and would have done more if KF would have allowed it. KOK won the battle in the JC-Stanzi controversy, but barely. I have seen every excuse as to why it is everyone's fault but KF's. He sure has fooled a lot of people over the years.
^^Taken from this thread.
Saturdays hopes of reaching the postseason in peril with three games remaining on the schedule.
I wasn't trying to belittle you in anyway yesterday, when I told you (& everyone) to chill. I love the passion, and it was a disappointing loss, but its the only "bad loss", by NCAA tourney standards, that Iowa has suffered this year. We pretty much all agreed, that a 5-1 record down the stretch is what it would take. There's the 1.
There is a difference between outstanding years and everything good. And the main point was that everyone was blaming other people, but never blaming KF. Everyone blamed KOK, then he left and now they blame GD. Maybe they should look at the top.
Thank you, exactly what I was remembering
I don't necessarily disagree, just showing that that's probably the thread Buck was referring to.
Not harsh at all fish, but exactly right.
It's funny how some posters always complain about the refs when Iowa loses. After each game I look at the score box, and almost always find Iowa making more free throws than opponents attempting - in this case it was closer: 16 fouls against Nebraska, 13 against Iowa. So it couldn't have been that AWFUL, unless we as Iowa fans think every call should go our way. I understand that the timing of questionable calls, and one or two bad calls can amplify negative perceptions, but the reality is that refereeing has rarely cost us a game, unless of course, you go back to Lute's era in a game against Purdue when Jim Bain (i think that was the ref's name) called a phantom foul against Kevin Boyle causing Lute to chase him out of the arena. Does anyone remember that? :) I know NYC and Silver do. Bain didn't ref in Iowa City for a couple of decades!!!!!
This post was edited by Hawklove 17 months ago
I agree that the officiating very rarely affects the result of the game. That said, I don't think looking at foul statistics is a good barometer to judge it as Iowa is by nature a much more aggressive team that most of their opponents. Therefore, they could still shoot more free throws than their opponent, but the opponent could still be getting the majority of the calls.
Love, I might've mentioned this on HC a few years ago, but I was there at Purdue back in 1982 and we were sitting behind the basket where the phantom foul was called.
Not a word was spoken in our car on the way back to IC for a few hours. The only sound was that of beer cans being popped open (there were less worries about drinking in a car back then).
That bum Jim Bain wanted to get out of there because he was officiating another game that night somewhere else.
Remember those T-Shirts: "Jim Bain Fan Club" with an image of him choking. It took a lawsuit from Bain himself to stop the sale of them in downtown IC. Wish I had bought a few.
And in that thread you said all the blame should go to the man at the top, but when something was good, none of that was due to the man at the top. You can try to spin it as much as possible, but it has already been pointed out that you said it.
Belittle? Please, no offense taken whatsoever. But we do need a real quality win, and time is running out.
We were all mad yesterday. A regular poster on here even called me a baby -- doesn't bother me one bit.
And I still do not take my Hawk losses well, no matter the season or circumstances.
Let's Go Hawks!
I used to be pretty vocal about KOK. I watch football games every fall Saturday with a family member of Drew Tate here in Houston. KOK actually had a very creative playbook drawn up.
Behind the closed doors, there is a very conservative, bone-headed head coach who has a choke collar on everything, including the plays Greg Davis calls. You're correct. A lot of people have been fooled.
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