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Just saw this, and it is interesting, kind of want to hear peoples' thoughts. I know some might hate him for what happened, but not a bad point.
Of course some will agree just because it is about coaching messing things up.
But anyways, share your thoughts on this and the 2009 season in general.
"the '09 hawkeyes could have easily been nat'l champs if kok didn't call a boot leg on the 2 yard line vs northwestern which resulted in ricky stanzi getting hurt because we ran that same play same yrd line the previous week vs indiana- NW was ready for it...then lose to osu in OT bc we ran out the clock in regulation. finished 11-2 & beat georgia tech in the orange bowl...two very costly coaching errors, 2 loses."
Hopefully I didn't reopen wounds for some, I know it took me a while to get over, but the Orange Bowl win helped
This post was edited by Buck Russell 17 months ago
No way Iowa have been ranked ahead of Texas or Alabama in the final polls even if the Hawkeyes had gone undefeated. The Hawkeyes would have been ranked 3rd at the highest in the final BCS standings.
Probably true, but there might have been a chance with Texas down the stretch, especially how poorly they played in their Championship game....but alas they are a bigger brand name than Iowa and Iowa did not play that weekend so little chance of them moving up. I do think if Iowa had the chance though, they would have played it close against either of those teams. That defense was amazing, and might have gave them the chance to win a national title that year, had they made it
Maybe DJK should lay the blame on who ever didn't block the guy who blew up Stanzi instead? I am so over DJK and his revelations.
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I don't believe there was really a missed block, that is the problem with the naked boot leg
DJK is adding an addition to his doghouse.
This post was edited by Truthhurts 17 months ago
For the record, I don't follow him, because I really do not care to know what he has to say, someone else tweeted him and I clicked on it and saw this, just kind of interesting. Thought it would give us something else to discuss. I know we have signing day coming up, but just something to take us away from that for a bit.
And I don't care much about discussing the 2012 season.
I agree with him except for the NC part, because of what Jumper said, but that guy really needs to just close his chapter with Iowa football and his dislike for the Iowa coaches.
I think factually he is correct for the NW portion of his tweet. The NW DE that sacked Stanzi causing the fumble stated he was very familiar with that play. In the 4th quarter of the Indy Game Stanzi ran that play and passed to McNutt for a huge score. Also in that game DJK Fumbles a punt return before half and Indy scores on the next play. He makes a big reception in the 4th quarter.
This was the year of comebacks.
Definitely a fun season to watch, but also had a lot of hard games to watch at the same time, if I had a bad ticker, I am not too sure I could have handled many of those games
DJK has some issues, and I don't really put much stock in his thoughts, but his take on the Stanzi play is spot-on.
One of the things that drove me crazy about KOK was his almost stubborn addiction to that particular play. It's a play action roll-out to the right where the QB has his back to the field initially, then has to make a quick decision once he turns and faces. The LDE (in this case Wooton) is generally left unblocked to allow for a check-down in the flat. Iowa ran it over and over and over, and, hence (duh), the defenses adjusted.
It's an especially questionable call that deep in your own territory. That said, Stanzi was out of the pocket and should have simply thrown the ball away. I think he underestimated how athletic and quick Wooton was at that time (prior to injury) and paid the price.
"Easily"? Not so sure about that, but I think we would've had a chance. I absolutely hated O'Keefe and know he made a ton of horrible calls that the team was able to bail him out of but the fact of the matter is that the 2 losses can't be blamed on him alone. There was no guarantee we would win any of the last 3 games of the year or a guarantee that Stanzi would not have gotten hurt on a straight drop back at some point even if it was just the next play.
I just watched the play again on youtube because I thought I remembered an opportunity for Stanzi to have thrown the ball away, but I was wrong looking back at it but there were 2 things I did notice. First off, Stanzi never should have ran the play, he should have audibled out of the play just after looking at the Northwestern formation and secondly, I do think there was a missed block on the play. Wooton is a huge DE and he was shaded left on the shoulder of the TE (the TE on the line at least), so he should've been noticed and blocked by 1 of the 2 TE's on that side, instead what happened was Wooton was barely even chipped and was able to blow up the play. FWIW, I also went back and watched the naked bootleg against Indiana and noticed that in that case there wasn't even a TE on that side and we had Brett Morse come out of the backfield to block the DE on the play side.
I originally posted this video 2 days after the loss to Northwestern in November 2009 as a video to hype up the game against Ohio State. This was our only loss at home and only loss of the season when Ricky Stanzi didn't start. It was a sad day.
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Did I retweet it Buck? And I dont think DJK hated the Iowa coaches, he said in the past he always wanted to be on KF's good side, but damn
I know that in most cases the LDE isn't going to be blocked on that type of play, however the TE's kind of forgot their rules on blocking because Wooton was way too far outside (as I note in my other post he was shaded on the outside or right shoulder of the TE who was on the line) and should've been blocked by 1 of the guys and probably chipped by the other. The play had no chance of working.
Hawkize tweeted something to him
Wow...only 2 coaching errors? How I would love it to have those days back...
DJK is right. Iowa would have been in the National Championship conversation had they beat NW (should have) and Ohio STate the next week (could have). No real need to gnash teeth and p**s and moan about it, now though. It was one of the best Iowa Hawkeye football seasons in my lifetime......and fellas, that goes back a ways.
The Orange Bowl victory in Miami was a great consolation prize and it is a very nice feather-in-the-cap of the players on that team, as well as KF's coaching staff.
I'm sure glad that I made the 'I'm in Miami, Kirk' trip to South Beach, to see the Hawkeye throng Take-over the Miami stadium and party in to the Weeee hours of the south beach night, on Jan 2, 2010 ! I'll never forget it as long as I live.
Quite a few stories from that night that I cannot share here. Hawkeye Fun/.
'Texan by birth, Hawkeye by the Grace of God'
I'll give you three reasons Iowa would not have been in the NC game, irregardless of how poorly Texas played against Nebraska:
3. Arkansas State
Hard to say. He actually was chipped by Morse, who then ran a short out pattern.
I agree that it would have been hard for Stanzi to throw the ball away, but it was possible. Just would have required a quick decision on his part.
But that's the inherent problem with that play - the QB starts with his back to the LOS. There is no time to ad lib if it breaks down. Plus, I'm sure Wooton had seen so many times that he knew exactly what to do. If Stanzi had been facing the LOS, he would have read the rush, and had an easy pass to Morse in the flat.
If you are going to have your QB with his back to the action, you better account for the DE/OLB on that side. Whether that's on Stanzi or the coaches is hard to say, but, nevertheless, KOK called it way too often, and definitely shouldn't have called it with the QB dropping into his own endzone.
Morse's "chip" was more of a push than anything and with how big Wooton is, it really didn't even effect is rush. What I'm saying is considering where he was lined up, you had to block him one on one and probably had the other guy chip him as well. Again though, Stanzi should never have ran the play to begin with and probably should've audibled to a run.
Yup, agreed. Reading defenses was never a strength for Stanzi, though he was light years better than JVB.
I remember when Iowa was ranked #4 that season after starting 9-0. The ESPN college football analysts HATED it and could hardly stand to give Iowa any credit.
I agree with DJK on this one except for the national title. ESPN would have done anything to keep iowa out of their beloved national title.
I remember that play against Northwestern and I couldn't believe they would call that play in the end zone. A better call would have been a slant pass or just hand it off.
The Ohio State game where Ferentz chose to take a knee still pisses me off to this day. I remember being at the game watch here in Houston and there was also a huge Ohio State crowd near us. When Iowa got the ball back, their faces were scared. When Ferentz chose to take a knee, the Buckeyes crowd erupted. They couldn't believe it.
Ferentz never has been a coach to put a nail in a coffin when given the chance.
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