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**** it SEC. Espin always wants to talk about how wonderful SEC football is, however, when it come to complete
Dominance of NCAA basketball, the spinsters at espn are noticably silent.
BigTen teams are something like 13-3 in post season play and cbs/espn was giddy that the
Illini didn't knock off their new favorites at the U. There is still college credits offered at Miami, right?
(even though they're currently under ncaa investigation and sanctions).
And how about espn's other favorite school, uconn, who is NOT allowed in the NCAA tournament, this year,
due to its sanctions for cheating under the great Jim Calhoun. LOL. Has Espin ever reported that to his viewers?
OK..........now, for VOTH posters.
How many BigTen teams do you see making the Elite 8?
I'm going with Michigan State over Duke; Ohio State over Arizona; Indiana over Syracuse.
However, I think Kansas will have an answer for Michigan and win by 1.
'Texan by birth, Hawkeye by the Grace of God'
UConn is ineligible for postseason play this year due to a poor APR, not for any violations. They have also been sanctioned for recruiting violations, but that's not the driving reason behind the postseason suspension. Both aspects of that story were widely reported by most media outlets, including ESPN.
I think you'll see the B1G get a lot more credit if at least three of the remaining four teams advance to the Elite 8, and/or if two or three teams advance to the Final Four. Getting four out of seven teams to the Sweet 16 isn't a major accomplishment, IMO, especially since they were all favored to do so based on the seedings.
I think three of the four will make it to the Elite 8. I'm more confident in Ohio State and Indiana, and think either MSU or Michigan will pull the mild upset.
The only person I have heard hate on the B1G is Barkley and even he acknowledged that 4 teams would be in the sweet 16.
This post was edited by Hawkeyefan 418 13 months ago
Yep, if the B!G would get bounced (highly unlikely) in the Sweet 16, all this chest-pounding would be silenced.
I live in Florida and the big chatter down here is how the state has three teams in the Sweet 16, a first. So, if we all stare at the brackets long enough, we can all make them glow to our liking. The SEC fans are finding solice in the fact that "their mighty conference" knocked out two B!G teams....so on it goes....
This tournament has been somewhat fun for me because I know John Giannini (LaSalle), as his dad was married to my sister for many years (she's not the mother however).... so it's fun to watch LaSalle do well. Giannini, btw, is from Chicago and was on Lou Henson's staff when they had those great teams in the late 80's.
Also, my partner's son and girlfriend/fiance both are students at Florida Gulf Coast University in Fort Meyers and watching them has been fun.... watching them knock out the Gators this week will be even more fun!!
I'm starting to wonder if Sky thinks the SEC Television Network is ESPN....
That's a pretty neat connection you have to Giannini! LaSalle and FGCU have both been great stories, and I always love seeing teams like that make a run in the tourney.
if given a chance, iowa might have won two games in the ncaa. i doubt they could've won a third game--and fear they won't win a third game in the nit--but they're in there with the bottom teams in the top 20.
I think they at least win one as both Illinois and Minnesota won a game and Iowa i better than both of them but I think the second depends on the match up
I think 'Zona can take Ohio State. They have the horses, experienced seniors and Sean Miller's a Thad Matta protege....it would be just another case of pupil schooling teacher. They've had two easy games so far. Ohio State's advantage may be that it'll be more battle-tested and focused after narrowly surviving the nail biter against ISU.
The other game to watch will be KU versus Michigan. I think Michigan can win. IU and MSU should send Syracuse and Duke packing.
In any case, if the Big 10 doesn't put at least one team in the Final Four, all the "best conference" accolades up to this point will have been meaningless.
And I'm starting to wonder if Hawkifish thinks they're not biased against the BigTen?
Apparently the executives at Diz have given them the marching orders.
Barkley said that the BigTen was overrated, early in the nc2a tourney broadcasts.
Then, he proceeded to pick Memphis over Michigan State. Mich State won by 25.
So, Barkley predicted on Sunday nite that the BIG would have 4 teams in the Sweet 16
Wrong. Clearly anyone who even remotely follows College Basketball, within regular season and then when the BigTen started off 13-1 in post season play, could deduce, with half-a-brain, that The BigTen is easily the BEST CONFERENCE in basketball in 2013.
This post was edited by Skyhawk52 13 months ago
Jeff Sagarin Computer rankings have been in USA today for about 20 years.
He ranks the teams and the conferences, using statistical methods far superior to the idiotic RPI and BPI.
Here's his current ranking of Conferences, using ALL games thru Sunday, March 24.
Big Ten is ranked first and it's not close. Big Least is 2nd and the Mountain West is over-rated at #7 on the list.
1 BIG TEN = 85.37 84.94 ( 1) 12 85.06 ( 1)
2 BIG EAST = 82.66 82.68 ( 2) 15 82.64 ( 2)
3 BIG 12 = 81.83 81.03 ( 4) 10 81.29 ( 4)
4 ATLANTIC COAST = 81.40 81.76 ( 3) 12 81.69 ( 3)
5 PAC-12 = 80.62 80.73 ( 5) 12 80.71 ( 5)
6 SOUTHEASTERN = 80.20 80.18 ( 6) 14 80.17 ( 6)
7 MOUNTAIN WEST = 79.94 79.79 ( 7) 9 79.81 ( 7)
Pretty much everyone I've seen on ESPN has said the Big Ten is undoubtedly the best basketball conference this year and has commended their post season performance. I'm honestly not sure where this outrage is coming from since most every analyst I've seen has been very complimentary towards the B1G as a basketball conference.
Like Fish said, the vast majority of the national media has clearly given the B1G the nod as the best conference in college basketball up until now. However, in college basketball, the postseason is where you prove it and earn your reputation, so the B1G still needs to take care of business in order to prove it, and I'm fine with that.
It comes from little babies who feel like they have had their sucker taken from them by mean old men while they were crying over their spilled milk...that's where.
In the original post, I was saying that Espin never mentions the BigTen dominance, or record in post season, like they regularly remind people, during bowl season, about the
wonderful virtues of the Sec.
And then, I predicted my Sweet 16 games for the remaining BigTen teams. For that I get .............well, nothing really.
Feel free to disagree with anything you'd like, but no reason to talk about another poster like that.
I agree with you that ESPN is much more willing and effusive in its praise of the SEC in football than the B1G in basketball. However, the B1G hasn't dominated in basketball for a 5-7 year span like the SEC has in football, and a B1G team hasn't won a national title in basketball in a long time. If the B1G continues to dominate college basketball for the next several years and proves it in the postseason, then I think we'd get a better idea of whether or not there really is a significant bias.
Wrong? So you have "insider" information that the Big 10 team's next games are all in the bag? You picked 3 of 4 Big 10 teams to win and so did I, so where was I wrong but you're right? By saying the Big 10's going to have to put at least one team in the Final Four to validate its "best conference" status, just as seven straight NCs has reinforced the perception that the SEC is the strongest football conference? If the SEC put teams in the NC seven straight years but they all lost, would people be calling it the strongest football conference? I doubt it. More likely, they'd be calling the SEC college football's biggest chokers.
My point is simply that you don't count your chickens before they're hatched. The SEC has sucked in basketball for several years but Kentucky was last year's national champion. By my reckoning, UK's victory last year made the SEC look better, just as a Big 10 team winning a NC in football would make the entire Big 10 look better.
If the Big 10 doesn't put at least one team in the Final Four, people will start saying the Big 10's over rated and your OP is going to make you look foolish. IMO, you're already halfway there with your ill-informed remarks about UConn and why they're on probation.
How is someone's opinion wrong??? It's an opinion.
Ohio State will have their hands full with Arizona. Sean Miller has done a great job in Tucson.
Most teams are playing well right now. I look forward to this upcoming weekend of basketball.
I will be yelling for the B1G and the Cinderella teams.
I wasn't speaking about any poster was I? I thought I was merely directing my whimsy at the unnamed forces in this World, whom Fish was wondering aloud about. Fish's post certainly does not mention anyone here...nor did I think, therefore, did mine.
Gotcha, maybe I misinterpreted it. Sorry for the confusion.
I think IN could fall to Syracuse. Syracuse has been the #1 buster all year! OSU has their hands full but think they have the easiest game of the 4 B1G's. MI and MI ST have not been lights out all year but I like MS ST since Izzo has proven them before.
As Todd stated, it's up to the 4 teams from the B1G to prove everyone wrong or it is all for nil!
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