Voice of the Hawkeyes Board

Bad move IMO

It seems they have been thinking it was going to happen, especially listening to the commentators from Thursday night

It was a bad move, no good coach will want it. Permanent doormat for the B1G for the next several line of coaches...

Oh I hate them too, just saying it was a bad move for them to make, does it upset me? Absolutely not

I would've understood to a certain extent if he'd proven that his program had hit a plateau and he couldn't take it any further. But they'd been steadily progressing until this year, and the poor season this year was obviously due in large part to losing half their team. Now if he'd stayed, had his full complement of players and had another poor season next year, then I'm fine with making a move. But this is just stupid.

It seems like I am going to geat beat up for this but I think it was a good move. Just by looking at the number, even though he was the most successful coach in NW history, his record was 192-210 in 13 seasons. That averages to about 14 wins a year. He NEVER made an NCAA tournament in those years either. Hell, even IU football made a bowl game is those 13 years. I know the faciliteis need upgraded and all of that but he should have been able to do more. I dont want to hear about academics or anything becasue their football team gets players, with crappy stadium also, and competes in the conference. I think if they get the right up and coming coach and possibly overpay some they could turn into a Minnesota or someone like that. I dont think they would win the title but no reason they shouldnt be able to make the NCAA tournament. Just my opnion, dont beat me up 2 bad.

Great post, and I appreciate you taking the opposing viewpoint. I just see this season as a throwaway year since so many people were out this year. So if they were going to make a move, why not do it at the end of last year? And what could have been the nail in the coffin this year for Carmody?

We've discussed this on this site in relation to Fran, but I've always felt there are some coaches that are great at turning a program around, and there are some coaches that are great at taking a good program and turning it into an elite program. Not many coaches are great at doing both of those. So if the administration legitimately felt that Carmody had basically maxed out and wasn't the one to lead them to the next level, I'm fine with that. I just don't think anything that happened this year could have been proof of that.

I've got to agree with Oaken. If Duke and Stanford and Vandy can be respectable or better, then so can NW. But it will take a commitment by the administration to make it happen, along the lines of Hayden Fry in 1979 at Iowa. Upgrades to Welsh-Ryan Arena, better practice facilities, an up-and-coming coach, etc. NW is right in the middle of a rich recruiting ground. It could happen.

I think that would be a really good hire for Drake.