
Rachid Ibrahim had established a relatively strict top-2, but Pitt jumped in with an offer on Tuesday. How will that affect Iowa's chances with the RB? Click here for more.
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lumuhawk said...
Still not sold on Ibrahim yet. For starters, the competition he is playing against is subpar. It's the lesser known private school competition -- many of them very small programs. Certainly not the powerhouses in the DC area. Just to show you how 'off the map' this program is -- the school is not even in Bethesda, it's in Gaithersburg, MD -- but every recruiting site continues to reference it as in Bethesda. I'm surprised coaches were able to find Veii and Ibrahim given the lack of attention brought to teams in this conference in comparison to the programs around them.
A 170lb. back with 4.7 speed would impress me a lot more if he was putting up these numbers against Dunbar, Dematha, etc.
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Todd Worly said...
Not disagreeing with anything you said, but Nate Meier, Drew Ott, Matthew VandeBerg, Nathan Bazata, etc aren't playing/didn't play against great competition either. All four could end up being busts, but Iowa still liked them enough to offer. I don't think a program should get ALL of their players from a school like that, but it can pay off to take a few fliers from time to time.
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lumuhawk said...
Todd, honestly, some of the players you mentioned are playing against better competition than Avalon on a given week. They truly are an unknown commodity in the area. Some of the schools they are playing against would be 1A or 2A in size in Iowa and I would take some of the Iowa players over some of the private school kids at these schools any day. Many of these kids are there strictly for the academics. I'm not sure there is a school in their conference known for its football program on a consistent basis. There are only 32 players on their entire varsity. Veii and Ibrahim probably singlehandedly are the reason Avalon has won their conference two years in a row.
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fuisu said...
Nate Meier had game film against this competition and he was 6'1 235lbs of pure muscle. Kid ran a 4.55 40 and was cleaning 320 pounds, benching 385 pounds and squatting 430 pounds.
Drew Ott shows great potential with his 6'4 245lb frame. It might be a bit till they get weight packed on that but I could see why they liked him with his athleticism offensively and defensively. Not to mention he had a championship abilities in H.S. for track and basketball. Plus Gatorade named him POY for the state.
Nathan has a great frame 6'2 275 and is an amazing wrestler undefeated into states.
My point is Todd, give me a good sell on Ibrahim. Does he have an amazing deadlift, was he on a state track relay team, can he run a shuttle time?
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As I said in my previous post, I really like his explosiveness, change of direction and footwork. He's got the frame to play at 6'2'', 215, and combined with the attributes I listed, he could be a solid B1G running back at that point.
I really don't pay much attention to testing numbers, because they're often extremely inaccurate, so I very rarely ask any recruits for them and/or report them. Therefore, I don't have anything for Ibrahim. I'd honestly be shocked if any of those numbers are 100% accurate for Meier. I'm not at all saying that he won't have a good career at Iowa, but I've found that the vast majority of lifting and running test numbers from recruits are significantly exaggerated.
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fuisu said...
I was hoping for something extra like he's a basketball stud.
As for his numbers, I believe Nate went to state track so Im sure those numbers are accurate. And his lifting stuff isnt too amazing for someone his size of pure muscle. I know a kid thats a 155lbs and benched 330lbs in high school. Heck Cole Hessiel had amazing HS numbers and a buddy of mind coached him and wouldnt lie to me about his squat or cleans. He was smaller than Nate and did about the same for the weight room stuff, minus the bench.
But I agree. Numbers arent everything. Christian French is a good example of this. If he was so good, why did the coach pull him when the team was down? Why did someone else have to field his catches on punts and hand it off to him and why did he feel the need to tackle from the side on every play. ARob would be another example, he didnt have world class anything but yet he always hit the right hole and played with enough heart to move the pile.
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Lifting wise, Meier's numbers could be accurate, but if I had a dime for every recruit that claims a ridiculously high bench or squat, I'd be a millionaire. From reading your posts, I know you're really big into lifting, as am I. I've had recruits send me videos of them "squatting 500 lbs," and in the video, they don't even go down half way. And there's no way that all of the recruits that say they bench or squat a certain amount actually do.
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As I said in my previous post, I really like his explosiveness, change of direction and footwork. He's got the frame to play at 6'2'', 215, and combined with the attributes I listed, he could be a solid B1G running back at that point.
I really don't pay much attention to testing numbers, because they're often extremely inaccurate, so I very rarely ask any recruits for them and/or report them. Therefore, I don't have anything for Ibrahim. I'd honestly be shocked if any of those numbers are 100% accurate for Meier. I'm not at all saying that he won't have a good career at Iowa, but I've found that the vast majority of lifting and running test numbers from recruits are significantly exaggerated.
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fuisu said...
I like the power lifts: dead lifts, squats, any type of clean or snatch. Bench is just a d
measuring contest. That same kid that could bench 330lbs in HS at 155lbs couldnt squat that.
Maybe I should send you a video of me "squating" 500 lbs...... be the best calf raises video you ever see
. I agree, Ive seen some meat heads go in the gym and put on 500 before and its like "dude whats the point of what your doing if your not even going parallel? Take off half that weight and ACTUALLY work out your lower body and not your lower back"
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